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Jun 30 2009, 10:28 AM
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Sugar damages Ephrata resident's car By Staff 2009-06-30 10:28:00 Intelligencer Journal Lancaster New Era
Someone poured sugar into the gas tank of an Ephrata resident's car, causing $8,000 in damage. The incident happened between 11 p.m. Sunday and 4 a.m. Monday in the parking lot of an apartment complex on Lincoln Heights Avenue.
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Mikerob
Jun 30 2009, 10:56 AM
Try looking for the person that the victim ticked off, or screwed over, then you'll find the one responsible for the damage.
DB Cooper
Jun 30 2009, 11:11 AM
I'm very skeptical about this. Didn't anyone see Mythbuster's a few years back when they tested this myth about sugar in the gas tank? They couldn't get the engine not to run with sugar. What was not disolved just layed at the bottom of the tank. Pretty much said, the experiment showed that nothing happened when you put sugar in the gas tank.
grieker
Jun 30 2009, 11:11 AM
$8,000 in damage - must be some really toxic sugar?
Pericles
Jun 30 2009, 11:30 AM
QUOTE (DB Cooper @ Jun 30 2009, 11:11 AM)

I'm very skeptical about this. Didn't anyone see Mythbuster's a few years back when they tested this myth about sugar in the gas tank? They couldn't get the engine not to run with sugar. What was not disolved just layed at the bottom of the tank. Pretty much said, the experiment showed that nothing happened when you put sugar in the gas tank.
It appears that you are correct.
http://www.snopes.com/autos/grace/sugar.aspSugar won't cause major damage.
hispanic in lancaster
Jun 30 2009, 11:32 AM
don't worry the cars where lemons
ben9030
Jun 30 2009, 11:36 AM
Not an $8000 repair at all
Simply remove and clean out tank, lines and replace filter
citizen-too
Jun 30 2009, 12:37 PM
Wait until the insurance company makes their adjustments. It will probably be more like $800, minus the deductable.
You could pop in a brand new engine and fues system for a lot less than $8000. Somebody just wants a new car.
Bigmaclender2
Jun 30 2009, 12:40 PM
QUOTE (grieker @ Jun 30 2009, 11:11 AM)

$8,000 in damage - must be some really toxic sugar?
What kind of car would be that expensive that it would take eight grand to replace/repair? No wonder the guy is living in an apartment-he can't afford anything else but his car, lol.
Scubabike420
Jun 30 2009, 02:02 PM
Just like to point out something that might make a difference. Not sure if ethanol was in the gas used by Mythbusters but ethanol changes the properties of gasoline. More of the sugar might disolve in the gas now that it contains 10% ethanol. Might be time to write Mythbusters and ask them to try it again with today's gas formulations.
Reader70
Jun 30 2009, 11:56 PM
Haven't heard of this in a long time. Didn't think anyone did that anymore. Does seem like a lot in damages.
They should look into the ethanol mixture as Scubabike420 suggested in their post.
BigBaron55
Jul 1 2009, 07:33 AM
At least it did not happen in Hershey, the sweetest place on earth.
salty
Jul 1 2009, 07:58 AM
Scubabike420 is onto something. Just mixed a little sugar into some new gas, middle grade. Some cloudiness, but the vast majority remains unchanged. Most of the sugar, at least 95% by my guess, stays granular.
I'll leave them together today, and see if that changes.
Laugh everytime I see a pump that says "enriched with 10% ethanol". Didn't know they changed the meaning of enriched.
grieker
Jul 1 2009, 08:06 AM
QUOTE (BigBaron55 @ Jul 1 2009, 07:33 AM)

At least it did not happen in Hershey, the sweetest place on earth.
I thought Hershey moved south?
reese
Jul 1 2009, 07:42 PM
QUOTE (Bigmaclender2 @ Jun 30 2009, 12:40 PM)

What kind of car would be that expensive that it would take eight grand to replace/repair? No wonder the guy is living in an apartment-he can't afford anything else but his car, lol.
Agreed. But a potato in the tailpipe--now that can really do some damage! (Not that I have first-hand knowledge about this.)
Reader70
Jul 1 2009, 07:47 PM
QUOTE (reese @ Jul 1 2009, 07:42 PM)

Agreed. But a potato in the tailpipe--now that can really do some damage! (Not that I have first-hand knowledge about this.)
Would hurt too! Ouch!!!
reese
Jul 1 2009, 08:14 PM
QUOTE (Reader70 @ Jul 1 2009, 07:47 PM)

Would hurt too! Ouch!!!
I was afraid I was going to have to qualify that statement. I mean a potato in the tailpipe of a CAR!!! (Get your minds out of the gutter!)
salty
Jul 2 2009, 06:29 AM
Very fine filter screen on the tank pickup, no solids are getting by. The little bit dissolved is going to be a problem, how?
Potato keeps the engine from running, no exhaust flow. Never heard of any damage, just inconvenience. Potato will shrink when it evaporates.
Still no more sugar dissolved than what was immediately yesterday.
BigBaron55
Jul 2 2009, 07:29 AM
Please stop giving people ideas....
salty
Jul 2 2009, 08:04 AM
Anyway, ideas are far more dangerous than the people who would use them... <sarcasm
grieker
Jul 2 2009, 08:50 AM
QUOTE (salty @ Jul 2 2009, 06:29 AM)

Very fine filter screen on the tank pickup, no solids are getting by. The little bit dissolved is going to be a problem, how?
Potato keeps the engine from running, no exhaust flow. Never heard of any damage, just inconvenience. Potato will shrink when it evaporates.
Still no more sugar dissolved than what was immediately yesterday.
If the sugar becomes solvent with the gas it will crystalize when it hits the injectors (high speed jet in a carb) effectively killing the "normal" operation of the vehicle by clogging the indectors.
IF it becomes solvent with the gasoline.
As for the $8,000 repair, there are vehicles out there (say a Mercedes ML55 AMG) that has a hand built engine (only 2000 of them made in the year 2000) that are very expensive and add that to the dropping of the tank and you could exceed $8,000.
Reader70
Jul 2 2009, 10:51 AM
QUOTE (BigBaron55 @ Jul 2 2009, 07:29 AM)

Please stop giving people ideas....
Would you prefer the sugar or the potato? Or, both for good measure?
How about just stealing the gas cap? Doesn't the gas cap have to be on for modern cars with all the fuel emission stuff to function?
solitary
Jul 2 2009, 11:17 AM
No, leaving the gas cap off throws a light on the dashboard. That is if the owner hasn't covered it with electrical tape already.
Didn't Mythbusters do a segment on this that gasoline does not dissolve sugar?
http://mythbustersresults.com/episode15Bleach on the other hand didn't screw up the engine, but did rust the gas tank (bleach is an oxydizer), but assuming that it's a metal tank in a modern car is a bad assumption.
Objects in the exhaust are ejected, however, if you can jam it up really good, it will eventually stall the engine. To destroy it, you'd have to find that just right setting between totally free and totally plugged up to burn the exhaust valves. Kinda hard to do on purpose.
QUOTE (ben9030 @ Jun 30 2009, 11:36 AM)

Not an $8000 repair at all
Simply remove and clean out tank, lines and replace filter
This guy was taken for a ride, or the police were taken for a ride.
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