http://www.usmagazine.com/news/jon-and-kat...onfirmed-200955

I guess that means the show will be history now.

Or they will make a spin-off from it. Kate +8 minus Jon. Boy if its all true can you imagine what he will be paying for child support? What was he thinking.

If you've ever seen the show, you will know exactly what he was thinking. She is a royal beyotch!

"JON MINUS NINE"

(This wasn't mine...I saw it on another board and thought it was pretty funny)

People Magazine reported this:

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20276577,00.html

Thats a good title too. I have watched the show and he just never seemed to be happy. I guess PA will be getting a visit from all the rag mags and tv shows now.

Maybe this will be the end of the show, and the Gosslin children can salvage what remains of their childhood, and live it without a camera on them 24/7.

You know, I'm not surprised one bit. Kate is a miserable dictator to live under. I'm surprised he didn't do himself in or sneak into the witless protection program, because I sure wouldn't stick around for that.
Saw it in a tabloid today, although the photo on the cover looked less than romantic. Not that tabloids would ever blow something out of proportion, so clearly they must have a couple of still shots of Jon and the mystery gal (guy?) "engaged".

Actually, I think this will revitalize the show and create a spike in ratings. Lets face it, the family gets by and lives on the money generated by this show. Very comfortably I might add. If the show goes away, so does their golden egg. I suspect the ratings have been slipping as of late. I'd imagine that the move to the million dollar plus mansion has taken some of the "charm" out of the show, and may be turning some viewers off. Also, there seem to be 2 or 3 other shows about families with way too many kids that are kind of taking away from the uniqueness of JK+8. Because of all of these reasons, and seeing how Kate is on the show, one can't help but wonder if this whole thing was staged or set up to revitalize interest in the show and make sure they can continue. Without the show, how will that afford a Million dollar house? Eventually the show will need to deal with this issue. I bet that particular show will be very highly rated. This whole thing will probably get them at least another season or two.

Later...Shawn

I don't know--I don't think this would be staging, unless they are completely done making money from the church speaking engagement/Christian book circuit. They've painted themselves as the Christian parents for the 21st century, so an affair is definitely not helpful to that image.

Thats a good point. I'm guessing it is a bit of a catch 22. How many of these places are gonig to pay them to speak once the show is off the air? That being said, I'm sure they can spin it into a lecture on reconciliation, forgiveness, and the rebirth of a marriage. This will help them relate with the audiance. It becomes a story of overcoming life's greatest difficulties. They could even throw in that it was their faith that helped them through the ordeal and they couldn't have done it without Jesus.

Later...Shawn

But the shows are available on DVD so they'll probably earn royalties from that, too. I saw one in the store the other day and thought, "Who the heck would buy that so they could watch the entire season over and over?" But amazingly, people are buying the DVDs.

Yes, but for how long? Once the show is off the air, and they stop getting publicity, I'm guessing people will stop buying DVDs. I'd love to know what kind of deal they have with TLC for this kind of thing. Whether this is a stunt or not, I'm guessing it will bring a lot of "new" viewers to the series, which will probably spur sales of DVDs for old seasons. I can't imagine how much cash flow they must need to pay for that house and all of those kids. Especially as the kids are getting older now.

Later...Shawn

I see your point, Shawn, but I'm not sure this is a stunt. I think it's more likely poor judgment by a man who is possibly overwhelmed by having so many children and a wife who is a bit controlling (just my opinion, although if I had 8 kids and a husband that seemed like a big kid, I'd probably sound like her, too). Edited to add: But I'm sure your instincts that this situation will be turned into some marketing opportunity for forgiveness/reconciliation are on target, too. It's salvaging the brand if they do.

I read the US magazine article and I do want to express my opinion on that: Deanna's brother is not"helping" his sister at all with the comments he reportedly shared there. My impression is he is exploiting her situation for his own personal gain. Maybe she's in on that and plans to profit financially as well, or maybe he just hung her out to dry. Cripes, she's just 23 and already she's getting dragged through the mud by her own kin!

I haven't read the story yet, so I don't even know fully what is being alleged or what the evidence is. Even if it wasn't a stunt, I still don't expect she will kick him to the curb. I think they'll turn lemons into lemon aide and end up profiting from the whole affair (pun intended). Ultimately, I think this will save the series and get them a few more seasons. I really think the show lost its appeal when they moved to the million dollar house. It really seems like Kate is getting more and more materialistic as the show goes on, trying to grab as much money as she can as fast as she can. Jon doesn't seem all that comfortable or enthused about living life that way.

Later...Shawn

I agree 100% with the increased materialism. The show has become an infomercial. They are just no-talent people who happened to have 8 kids.

I have a feeling that the "Table for 12" people (twins, twins, and sextuplets) might be harming J&K's ratings. They seem like decent people who genuinely like one another and have been given no special advantages in order to take care of their children, one of whom has CP and is nearly blind. Somehow they manage on a policeman's salary and are cheerful about it, too. And their children actually behave.

The potential for "Table for 12" to cut into the ratings of and eventually repalce JK+8 is what really got me to thinking that Jon and Kate might pull a stunt like this. I could see Kate justifying/rationalizing a move like this to make sure they stay on the air and the money keeps coming in.

Later...Shawn

We've watched this show once -- hubby stumbled onto it while channel-flipping. I'd say your assessment is about right, except for one thing....I would expect for the reasons highlighted in bold above, this show will not hold the interest of the American public. There's no controversy, and our viewers just loooooove controversy.

I am not usually a "stay together for the sake of the kids" advocate, but there are 8 little kids here who didn't ask to be born. Jon made his bed, so to speak, and it is really time for him to man-up and do the right thing by these kids. And if he could grow a spine and stand up to Kate the Great, that would definitely help. I personally would send the woman straight to counseling and wouldn't turn her loose on this family until she could get over the obsessive-compulsive-control-freak bit. But that's just me.

It's a shame he didn't grow a spine before she talked him into "trying for one more" — that turned into six more — when he was perfectly happy with two.

Aren't they pretty much old news now, anyway? I thought TLC was rolling out a new show called Table for Twelve or something like that...ten kids, even more adorable than Jon and Kate's eight.

ETA: Never mind. I posted before reading all the way through the thread and see this was already noted.

I know--these people are too normal to have a long-running show. They just do their thing with very little drama.

Bottom line there are 8 kids that most likely will have divorced parents. What a sad story, they both deserve some blame, more him than her though.

Do you all tape this crap so you can watch American Idol,and Dancing with the Stars right after this show?

is this a shock to anyone ??

What is not a shock is that She is doing a Tammy Wynette and standing by her man....who really cares anyway

I've just seen the show once plus some snippets here and there. If the tables were turned and Jon treated Kate the way that Kate treats Jon, people would have been screaming for her to file a PFA pronto a long time ago.

Did you see Kate on the Today show? She looked like crap! I hate to say this but somethings going on! She looked totally washed out. She also stated that "she hesitates to believe it". What the Heck? What does she mean? Does she not trust her husband? Somehting is really wrong with this pcture!!

I know someone who did work on their previous house. The cameras weren't around the few days he was there working and he said that they are both dictators around that house screaming at each other and the kids.

Watched the show last night.

Just really saddened by the whole thing. If those kids don't end up really screwed up by all of this, it will be a miracle.

Heck no...I'm too busy watching The Real Housewives of New Jersey. Watch out for that Caroline...she'll cut you.

Since I've only caught one show, I didn't see any nannies or help or anything within the camera's view. You KNOW that this woman could not spend that much time on her nails and hair and exercise and clothes shopping and perfect make up to care for eight children without help. Do they ever show the help? Or is the show designed to lead the viewer into believing that they do it all on their own?

There were whole episodes devoted to the interviewing and hiring of help. Plus, they have family in the area -- siblings I believe. I have only seen portions of a couple of episodes, but got snookered into watching the last episode.

I believe over time all of the family has been cut out of their lives for one reason or another.

Cancel the show, they are exploiting the children and TLC is exploiting people that follow this garbage.

I agree with you completely. Who watches this crap? All these shows just dumb down the American public. Go read or watch something educational. Jeeesh!!

And by the way, if it is true that he is leaving her, who in their right mind would want a controlling, washed up biiiatch like Kate? She is used meat (my apologies to "usedmeat")!!

I watched the episode too. Its just so sad seeing the kids being used to make them rich. I was sad when the little girl went up to Jon and and said "daddy I don't want you to go away anymore." You can just see the tension between these two. I am not defending him but she has also been accused of having an affair with the body guard. I think these two have been having issues for a long time. Like she said on one of the talk shows or event the episode. This is her business now. Doing the shows, books, speeches etc. It will be interesting how the rest of the season goes.

I remember posting about Kate and the show and ppl actually defended her . And look at how things have unravelled! If you don't know it now there no removing the logs from one's eyes! Kate is NOT a nice person. Jon is perhaps not that great himself. They are living high off the hog TLC created for them, feel 'entitled', and even the tears on that new season show seemed fake. (I was like 'wow, Kate can DO THAT? She can cry?') I wondered what happened to the dogs but I did see one walking around outside on the show in beginning. (isn't it amazing how the dogs are such NON ENTITIES?) Kate seems to think she's some diva. ...........seeing her go to a store and criticizing the 'paparazzi'. The woman is secretly ENJOYING IT!! She loves appearing to be b*tchy & snubbing them. Notice she doesn't have any problem w/TLC cameras following HER around as she reacts snobbily to the paparazzi!!! She wants to keep their personal life PRIVATE yet she talks about it every chance on her own show and on news networks! DOUBLE SPEAK.

I feel no sorrow at all for her ......but their kids are innocent pawns in the whole mess. Its pathetic. And sadly what tv has become~~~a shallow pit of mayhem and fake 'reality'. Its beyond gross.

I think they are milking all of this for the ratings and by the end of this season or possibly the start of next season they will get back together and it will be a huge special episode. ratings galore....and lots a money.

I think your right.

The family probably voiced their concerns over where their lives were headed and said they wanted no part of the show...probably why we never see any family.

Jody used to be on the show a lot and babysat the kids. Apparently, upon noticing that she was receiving nothing monitary for her part on the show she had the audacity to ASK for such & Kate became angry over it. (Imagine. Wanting all the pot for herself. Expecting the very best in everything and no one else is allowed to ask for a cut. )

Some people seemed to perceive that it was 'Jody's greed' that caused the miff but oddly, I think it is the other way around.

I agree. She was being filmed. The nice thing to do would be to compensate her a little for that.

They both are using the kids, the sad thing is that those 8 kids are just getting used by these parents and will always have the stigma of having idiots as parents.

She is absolutely a royal one....how ironic is it that Jon's every move is met with papparazzi, regardless of when or where. However Kate's movement without the children somehow evades all the cameras....could she be tipping off the papparazzi or possible having him followed. I would not put it past her at all.

Jon Gosslin FAN...

Are you one of his honeys ?

Jon Gosselin needs to grow a pair as well as grow up!! He has eight children and he's running around like a teenager.

Kate may act like a b*tch but look at what she is dealing with. Any parent of eight children has to be organized and keep their head on straight.

Cancel the show and get this couple some serious cousneling!!

I only watched the show for the first time the other night [during commercials while watching another program]. I do not believe that Kate is a biotch. I believe she needs to be direct in her dealings with so many children and so much to do. Jon walks around as though he is total[ly] oblivious of what to do. Cut the woman a break. Keep eight children organized and see how much control it takes.

Chicken and egg. Many reports claim she was a control freak before the kids and even the couple's own recounting of getting pregnant with the second litter seems to back that up. He was happy with having the two kids (twins) they had and really didn't want any more. She talked him in to (or my guess decided for them) that they would try for "one" more. So she uses fertility methods that are unlikely to produce ONE embryo. Local rumor has it (3/4s of the rumors I've heard about them turn out to be very much true, maybe 1/4 are either not or I don't know) that when working with the fertility specialist she originally agreed to selective reduction if they ended up with too many embryos implanted and then wouldn't do it. I know many people don't agree with abortion in fertility treatments, but my point is DON'T tell the doc that you'll do it (in order to get more aggressive treatment) and then not do it, PARTICULARLY when your husband really didn't want more kids and certainly not six. I think tricking/coercing people into having children they don't want is one of the worst things a person can do to their significant other. I wouldn't be surprised if Jon's been mentally on the way out ever since...

Does that excuse, a 30 something year old man, acting like a immature playboy. Just asking?

They are both such 'trainwrecks' and 'celebrity fodder'. Does anyone remember their lives before they knew who the Gossellins were?

An interesting tidbit: I ran into my daughter's soccer team/classmate's mom at the store the other day. We were catching up on how our kids were doing (all in college now) & she said her daughter was at some grocery store and who did she see? Kate Gossellin!!!

She said on REGIS the one day that she sometimes turns over all the magazines in the store & comments aloud how ridiculous the article are. I would love to be entertained by that while waiting in a long line.