4coffee
Jan 28 2008, 12:47 PM
Does anyone have a child or know a chid who suffers from kidney stones?
BeingReal
Jan 28 2008, 02:18 PM
No, but I've been diagnosed with them after many tests and consultation with a urologist, plus my father had them (I'm female). Is there a particular question you have that I might be able to help you with?
4coffee
Jan 28 2008, 02:31 PM
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No, but I've been diagnosed with them after many tests and consultation with a urologist, plus my father had them (I'm female). Is there a particular question you have that I might be able to help you with?
I know nothing about the passing process other than people say it's very painful. Do you get sick in other ways? My child seems to be throwing up a lot, is that a symptom of kidney stones? If you look up pediatric kidney stones on the net there really isn't too much info because it's rare. Rare enough that the Lancaster hospitals can't provide care for my child. Just reaching out to the Talkback community to see if anyone can provide information.
Beth
Jan 28 2008, 03:05 PM
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I know nothing about the passing process other than people say it's very painful. Do you get sick in other ways? My child seems to be throwing up a lot, is that a symptom of kidney stones? If you look up pediatric kidney stones on the net there really isn't too much info because it's rare. Rare enough that the Lancaster hospitals can't provide care for my child. Just reaching out to the Talkback community to see if anyone can provide information.
They do give meds to disolve them. My boss just had a bad 2 weeks with them early Jan.
Drink plenty of fluid w/o losing necessary minerals. Your body can manufacture a kidney stone w/ in 24 hours. Double check diet and NO Turkey Hill Iced TEA!!
Gotta get to work I'll ask Jerry what all he did to rid himself and what his Dr. had him do.
Hugging Soft pillows for coughing and sneezing seems to bring some comfort.
harv1
Jan 28 2008, 03:06 PM
4Coffee: FWIW, I was an Xray tech way back when. I don't recall ever Xraying a child for kidney stones.
You mention the rarity, etc. Has your doctor run diagnostic tests to determine that your child has kidney stones or are you thinking that the symptoms might be indicative of stones.
You also mention that the hospital is not set up to deal with this. I'd suggest that you take your child to Hershey Medical Center or to the closest Children's Hospital for treatment.
Kidney stones are extremely painful and if your child is a boy, then it might be doubly painful to pass them. Some kidney stones are too large to pass and are treated with lithotripty (sound waves that break down the stones so that they can pass).
If indeed your child has been diagnosed, then take him/her to another hospital. Vomiting can often occur if there is a lot of pain involved in anything. You get nauseated from pain and you vomit.
I would think that you would need one of the most basic diagnostic tests which involves iodine contrast material that shows the kidneys, ureters, and bladder. They may have more advanced tests now. It's been ages since I've said "hold your breath."
Also, if a stone is large enough it can block the flow of urine from the kidney to the bladder. Which is very injurious to the kidney. Especially if it is a child because the kidney is still maturing.
BeingReal
Jan 28 2008, 03:21 PM
My personal experience and what I've witnessed with my father when he had them many moons ago is that there's pain, some blood in the urine, but no vomiting. Be aware that there is a stomach bug going around right now that is pretty intense (one of our kids had it, plus a friend's child....projectile vomitting is present). It might be wise to check with your doctors to see if your child has the bug in addition to the kidney stone. It could quite well be that the vomitting is associated with the pain, as Harv notes, but I'd want to be sure. You're at risk of dehydration with vomitting, so ice chips might be a good idea until you're sure your child's stomach is settled enough to move into the brat diet (banana, rice, applesauce and toast). We gave our child Gatorade and water mixed once the vomitting stopped, too.
Kidney stones are typically caused by two things in your system: too much calcium or too much uric acid. I had a 24-hour urine collection test done by the urologist that figured out my issue was that I had too much calcium. To address this, I am supposed to drink more acidic beverages (ie. lemonade) and water (drink loads!) but cut back on my calcium in my vitamins. If there's any chance that your child would have these again, I'd recommend that you get to a urologist to get the test done so you can manage the issue in his/her diet. Hershey has excellent specialists in many areas; I'm hopeful you'd find a pediatric urologist there who could help you out.
Good luck -- and please keep us posted. I'll keep your child in my prayers.
4coffee
Jan 28 2008, 03:33 PM
Thank you everyone!
Harv1 - the doctor found the stones when they did a CAT scan. We are currently seeing a pediatric nephrologist at Children's Hospital of Phila and also a pediatric urologist at Hershey Med Ctr.
harv1
Jan 28 2008, 03:43 PM
Good deal, 4coffee. Since you have the diagnosis and have the resources, I'd give them a call just to be on the safe side. Incidentally, I just read that research has shown that people who are prone to kidney stones and drink colas (any brand) have a much higher rate of kidney stones because of the phosphorous that is present in colas. Seven Up, Sprite etc. (anything without cola in it) didn't cause a spike in stones.
Beth
Jan 28 2008, 06:59 PM
4 Coffee, Checked w/ my boss, he actually hasn't passed them yet!! Was told to drink cranberry juice and leave alone any cola that isn't clear.
I do hope they pass easily and that the pain will only be a memory soon.
Blessings, Beth
4coffee
Jan 28 2008, 07:35 PM
Thanks for the info on the cola - did not know that.
Bag17 - your boss, 2 weeks and still no stone. The urologist said that after a "major pain event" that meant the stone had passed thru the tube and into the bladder and would come out within 48 hours. Apparently that's not the case with my child or your boss.
This is the kind of info I am looking for - Thank you everyone!
cao1024
Jan 30 2008, 02:12 PM
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Thanks for the info on the cola - did not know that.
Bag17 - your boss, 2 weeks and still no stone. The urologist said that after a "major pain event" that meant the stone had passed thru the tube and into the bladder and would come out within 48 hours. Apparently that's not the case with my child or your boss.
This is the kind of info I am looking for - Thank you everyone!
I have been carrying around painful stones in both kidneys for the last month, they assured me they would pass but have not yet. I am going thru testing for parathyroid disease. If the parathyroid doesn't function correctly then you put to much calcium into your kidneys and it form stones. Not sure if kids get parathyroid disorder, but maybe something to ask the docs about.
My best to you and your son, I hope this clears up soon, hate to think of a kid going thru this.
Take care
Cindy
4coffee
Jan 30 2008, 03:17 PM
Thank you cao1024. I will mention it to the doctors.
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