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jrmwarfare
....to City and why?. I'm sure this year is extra special and I hope you enjoy the holiday.



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citydweller
Just to us? blush.gif Aw shucks, we can't be the only Yids on Talkback... can we?

Well anyway here's sharing our holiday with you guys. I'll post a new pic each night as the conflagration grows.

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citydweller
Second night. Cold and snowy.


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area man
Happy Hanukkah...

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harv1
Happy Hanukkah y'all!

A friend of mine who's Jewish sent me this today. I got a good kick out of it. Hope you do too:

http://gothamist.com:80/2007/12/03/if_its_time_for.php



And there is this one too:



http://www.flickr.com/photos/mhaithaca/125841030/

citydweller
It's merely ironic that we celebrated the onset of the holiday with a delicious pair of stuffed pork chops, purchased ready-to-bake at Weis, no less ph34r.gif
harv1
That's OK City. I celebrate Christmas but I haven't put up a tree in five years. Plus pork or minus tree, the spirit is still there smile.gif
jrmwarfare
Hey City, love the menorah! It looks like it has some age to it. Is there a story behind it?



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citydweller
The menorah (or Chanukia in Hebrew) is Russian, probably made in the mid-1800's. I found it in the attic of a house adjacent to our synagogue during a renovation when I was a kid. Our congregation's historian at the time was a friend and neighbor, and when I brought it to him he told me I could keep it as long as I never ever sold it. It's one of the few things that I've "religiously" held onto since childhood, and G-d willing it will be passed onto our progeny down the road.
Hope
City, I noticed that the blue candle was in the middle and now it is at the end. What is the significance?
why?
QUOTE(Hope @ Dec 6 2007, 02:56 PM) [snapback]341040[/snapback]
City, I noticed that the blue candle was in the middle and now it is at the end. What is the significance?

the only significance is that i put it there!
the color of the candles doesn't really matter.
there were some for sale at the Temple, i wished i had been able to get them.
they were multi-coloured with etching and frosting, very pretty!

cvs across the street isn't carrying any Hannukah stuff this year, which i didn't find out until about an hour before lighting the candles.

we ended up, after a series of attempts to find candles, at the big wal-mart.
there were a whole four shelves with stuff!
including plastic garlands with little menorahs and Star of Davids....what are we supposed to hang that on? laugh.gif
anyway, we found some nice candles from Israel, but what was funny was what was on top of the four shelf display~ a bunch of Christmas tree angel toppers!
Hope
QUOTE(why? @ Dec 6 2007, 03:18 PM) [snapback]341048[/snapback]

the only significance is that i put it there!
the color of the candles doesn't really matter.
there were some for sale at the Temple, i wished i had been able to get them.
they were multi-coloured with etching and frosting, very pretty!

cvs across the street isn't carrying any Hannukah stuff this year, which i didn't find out until about an hour before lighting the candles.

we ended up, after a series of attempts to find candles, at the big wal-mart.
there were a whole four shelves with stuff!
including plastic garlands with little menorahs and Star of Davids....what are we supposed to hang that on? laugh.gif
anyway, we found some nice candles from Israel, but what was funny was what was on top of the four shelf display~ a bunch of Christmas tree angel toppers!


Too funny!

I don't like that CVS. I find the pharmacy staff to be pretty rude how about you? The young boy that works in the pharmacy isn't bad but the others I just don't care for.
twinmom
QUOTE(Hope @ Dec 6 2007, 03:32 PM) [snapback]341052[/snapback]

I don't like that CVS. I find the pharmacy staff to be pretty rude how about you? The young boy that works in the pharmacy isn't bad but the others I just don't care for.




They used to have a great pharmacist in there, knew who I was and I only went in once a month! Sadly, he disappeared a few years ago.



City - thanks for the pictures. My son saw them and asked about it.

jrmwarfare
QUOTE(citydweller @ Dec 6 2007, 02:42 PM) [snapback]341035[/snapback]
The menorah (or Chanukia in Hebrew) is Russian, probably made in the mid-1800's. I found it in the attic of a house adjacent to our synagogue during a renovation when I was a kid. Our congregation's historian at the time was a friend and neighbor, and when I brought it to him he told me I could keep it as long as I never ever sold it. It's one of the few things that I've "religiously" held onto since childhood, and G-d willing it will be passed onto our progeny down the road.
That's awesome!! I'm sure he'd be pleased to know you still have it.



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justplainjoe
happy holidays !!!
citydweller
Third night, with a bit of a twist. Explanation below.

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Our synagogue is starting a Thursday night bingo game as a fundraiser. Tonight was our "trial run", just for congregants to learn their jobs, and many of us brought our menorahs so we could light them at the proper time.

So here you have probably the first photo of a Chanukah menorah burning in the bingo hall of the Knights of Columbus on New Danville Pike.

We will host bingo at K of C every Thursday at 6pm, open to the public, with pretty decent prizes. Come visit us starting next Thursday.
Kate
QUOTE(citydweller @ Dec 6 2007, 11:07 PM) [snapback]341102[/snapback]
Third night, with a bit of a twist. Explanation below.

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Our synagogue is starting a Thursday night bingo game as a fundraiser. Tonight was our "trial run", just for congregants to learn their jobs, and many of us brought our menorahs so we could light them at the proper time.

So here you have probably the first photo of a Chanukah menorah burning in the bingo hall of the Knights of Columbus on New Danville Pike.

We will host bingo at K of C every Thursday at 6pm, open to the public, with pretty decent prizes. Come visit us starting next Thursday.

Faith and gambling??? unsure.gif

I wonder if the Catholics have the Advent wreath lit while playing bingo.

No offense intended to why? and citydweller. Just can't imagine mixing the two.


Hope
QUOTE(Kate @ Dec 6 2007, 11:34 PM) [snapback]341109[/snapback]

Faith and gambling??? unsure.gif

I wonder if the Catholics have the Advent wreath lit while playing bingo.

No offense intended to why? and citydweller. Just can't imagine mixing the two.

I can imagine it, we (Catholics) have been doing it for years! biggrin.gif

I think it's hysterical that you are renting out the K of C. It just goes to show that two Faiths can work together!!
citydweller
Fourth night,

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at our synagogue, nestled in front of the really huge one on the left side, along with approximately 40 others.

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citydweller
I broke down and joined Youtube tonight after reviewing some vidies I shot with my Kodak C663. The raw material was much better than what Youtube produced, but in any case welcome to our Chanukkah:

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why?
tonight our menorah will be lit at home.
it really does get around!
jrmwarfare
Hey City, not a bad vid for an amateur!! Thanks for sharing your ceremony. That's really cool!



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citydweller
Day five, back home again.

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BeingReal
Maybe it's me, City and Why?, but I think your menorah looks best in the pictures from home. Something about the simplicity of the setting just says it all. smile.gif
citydweller
Simplicity???? blink.gif

Day Six. Figured you're all tired of the kitchen counter, so we moved the conflagration to another...er.... surface ph34r.gif

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Stay tuned more another local scenery change tomorrow..... if we can make a space big enough for the tray.
BeingReal
The kitchen is usually the heart of the home, City, and it's an appropriate place for something so representative of your faith to be displayed, IMO. That's the simplicity of which I wrote. smile.gif
Lancaster
City, what is the signifigance of the gold coins?
twinmom
I kind of like the "traveling menorah"!



What are those figures in the background of the latest pic?

why?
QUOTE(Lancaster @ Dec 10 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]341623[/snapback]
City, what is the signifigance of the gold coins?

the gold coins are "gelt"...
chocolate coins that we give to kids, (and adults!) on Hannukah.
i also put some dreidels with the tray, just to make it a bit more festive.

i'm trying to find a place for the tray tonight.
typically, the menorah is supposed to face either an open door, or a window to shine on the outside.

that's what i'm trying to find right now!
citydweller
Day seven. Sharing the joy with CVS shoppers via front window.

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The coins - Chanukkah "Gelt" (Yiddish for money). In the earlier day of the holiday coins were given to the children each night, not gifts. The children would use the coins to play the dreidel game. Once Chanukkah was Christmatized and gifts came into vogue, the candy coins became the substitute "money" for playing the game.
BeingReal
Who ate the Gelt?!?!?!? wink.gif laugh.gif
Robotspyder
QUOTE(citydweller @ Dec 5 2007, 11:24 PM) [snapback]340789[/snapback]
It's merely ironic that we celebrated the onset of the holiday with a delicious pair of stuffed pork chops, purchased ready-to-bake at Weis, no less ph34r.gif




Ummm ..... I don't want to sound stupid ... I just started reading this thread ... But I was wondering ..... Jewish and eating filled Pork Chops?? Did I miss something??? I thought they swore swine off ... Like thousands of years ago!!!

Interesting note .... I know a Jewish man who has a bacon press in his home but no menorah. What's with that???

Goldilocks
Thanks for sharing this special time of the year, with us, City and why. Interestingly the word “Gelt” is also the Pa. Dutch word for money.


Kate
QUOTE(citydweller @ Dec 10 2007, 07:35 PM) [snapback]341735[/snapback]
Day seven. Sharing the joy with CVS shoppers via front window.

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The coins - Chanukkah "Gelt" (Yiddish for money). In the earlier day of the holiday coins were given to the children each night, not gifts. The children would use the coins to play the dreidel game. Once Chanukkah was Christmatized and gifts came into vogue, the candy coins became the substitute "money" for playing the game.

Very beautiful display! Had I known it would be displayed in that window I would hve driven by specifically to view it.

I display electic window candles in my living room - those pale in comparison to what you're displaying.

Happy Chanukah!!
citydweller
QUOTE(Robotspyder @ Dec 10 2007, 10:17 PM) [snapback]341769[/snapback]

[ I know a Jewish man who has a bacon press in his home but no menorah. What's with that???


Ummm.... just a guess here, but I think it means he likes bacon.
why?
QUOTE(Robotspyder @ Dec 10 2007, 10:17 PM) [snapback]341769[/snapback]




Ummm ..... I don't want to sound stupid ... I just started reading this thread ... But I was wondering ..... Jewish and eating filled Pork Chops?? Did I miss something??? I thought they swore swine off ... Like thousands of years ago!!!

Interesting note .... I know a Jewish man who has a bacon press in his home but no menorah. What's with that???


the jewish dietary laws are open...not only for interpretation, but also as to who follows them.
we are reform, and do not follow them.
however, we know many families who follow them.
depends upon what you really believe.
the reason for not eating certain foods is basically," i acknowledge you, G*d, and refrain from this in order to serve you, and acknowledge you".
however, many sects have decided that simply acknowledging G*d while eating, is enough.
always, a personal derivation.
Artie See
QUOTE(Robotspyder @ Dec 10 2007, 10:17 PM) [snapback]341769[/snapback]
Interesting note .... I know a Jewish man who has a bacon press in his home but no menorah. What's with that???
The previous owners of the company I work for would have a Christmas weekend for all field employees every year (until near the end). We would eat and drink late into the night, then stay overnight in a hotel, with breakfast the next day - all paid for by the company.

One year our regional manager and his wife joined us. He is a full-blooded Jewish Israeli (but no longer our regional manager, the districts were realigned). At breakfast, my wife caught him loading up his plate with bacon (his wife was not up yet). He saw her looking at him, smiled and told her not to tell his wife! We thought it was hilarious.
citydweller
Day eight, last day.... sigh.

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Thank you all for sharing our holiday with us.... especially you, Whirly wink.gif

A politically-correct seasonal niceness to all, and to all a relatively decent night's lack of awareness !!!! ho ho ho ph34r.gif
twinmom
Thank you city and why? for inviting us into your home, so to speak, and sharing your celebration with us.



I do have one question that just popped into my head, is there a certain amount of time that the candles should be lit for?

citydweller
The candles must burn for at least 1/2 hour. Some authorities also hold that one should do no work during that time period as it is a sort of micro-Sabbath.
Hope
QUOTE(citydweller @ Dec 10 2007, 07:35 PM) [snapback]341735[/snapback]

Day seven. Sharing the joy with CVS shoppers via front window.

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The coins - Chanukkah "Gelt" (Yiddish for money). In the earlier day of the holiday coins were given to the children each night, not gifts. The children would use the coins to play the dreidel game. Once Chanukkah was Christmatized and gifts came into vogue, the candy coins became the substitute "money" for playing the game.


I think I see myself in the CVS buying my daughter some cough/cold medicine ohmy.gif
I actually was in there that night...

Thanks for sharing your tradition with us this year! I'm relieved that you can eat bacon!!!
why?
QUOTE(citydweller @ Dec 12 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]342142[/snapback]
The candles must burn for at least 1/2 hour. Some authorities also hold that one should do no work during that time period as it is a sort of micro-Sabbath.

actually, city, from the laws of Hanukkah...

"The miracle and salvation of Hanukkah were a result of the actions of Jewish women. Therefore, for at least half an hour after the flames of the menorah are kindled, women should not engage in work".

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ace1969
Unfortunately I have not been around much and am trying to get caught up. I regret missing each days new photo and discussion. A big Thank you to both City and Why for including us.

Now that we know the general area that you live we can wave. I will probably be down town Saturday AM so if you look out your window and see a 6'2" guy waving like he is off his rocker it will be me. wacko.gif



שָׁלוֹם

BeingReal
QUOTE(citydweller @ Dec 11 2007, 11:22 PM) [snapback]342032[/snapback]
Day eight, last day.... sigh.

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Thank you all for sharing our holiday with us.... especially you, Whirly wink.gif

A politically-correct seasonal niceness to all, and to all a relatively decent night's lack of awareness !!!! ho ho ho ph34r.gif




To me, the Menorah is back where it belongs...I just love the picture. biggrin.gif Thanks for sharing!

jrmwarfare
City and why? --

Thanks for sharing your holiday with us. It was great to see. I especially like the note on the last photo. wink.gif Good luck at bingo tomorrow!!



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Kate
QUOTE(why? @ Dec 12 2007, 12:19 PM) [snapback]342163[/snapback]

actually, city, from the laws of Hanukkah...

"The miracle and salvation of Hanukkah were a result of the actions of Jewish women. Therefore, for at least half an hour after the flames of the menorah are kindled, women should not engage in work".

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Hey why? - I like that law. wink.gif

I grew up in the Catholic Church and find some interesting similarities to the Chanukah celebration.

Was the Catholic Advent wreath a copycat of the menorrah?

http://www.catholic.org/clife/advent/index.php?id=21



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The wreath's symbolism of the advent (coming) of Light into the world is clear. The gradual lighting of the four candles, one on each Suday of the Advent season, combined with the liturgical colors of the candles (purple is the penitential color used during Advent and Lent; rose is a liturgical color used only on Gaudete Sunday in Advent and Laetare Sunday in Lent) help to symbolize not only our expectation and hope in Our Savior's first coming into the world, but also in his Second Coming as Judge at the end of the world.

The wreath itself is also symbolic. The circle of evergreen in which the candles are placed represents everlasting life. The seedpods, nuts and cones used to decorate the wreath are symbolic of resurrection, and fruits represent the nourishing fruitfulness of the Christian life.





harv1
Dear city and why?: I've enjoyed all of the photos, night after night. Thanks for sharing them with us LOLers. It made me homesick for Phoenix and friends of ours who shared their celebration with us. I have a small menorah that they gave me as a gift before we left Phoenix to remember them by.

I also want to comment on the cool stuff surrounding your menorah in the various rooms. I'm one of those people who, when watching youtube, look at what's in the background. I refer to it as one of my Fellini Moments... always looking at the background for interesting stuff. Loved the bottles etc. in your kitchen and that captain's (?) mirror on the wall. Loved the bingo setting too smile.gif



Happy that your holiday season was filled with joy! May that joy follow you both the whole year through. L'Chaim! (I hope I spelled that right!)

why?
lol_blush.gif you spelled it just right, harv.
ace- if you see someone waving frantically from the second floor, you'll know that it's me signalling, "HI ACE! TURN THOSE (bad word) HEADLIGHTS OFF, I'M SLEEPING!" laugh.gif

as to the rest of you...

we really enjoyed sharing this with you.
maybe next year we can get one of you bums over so we can make you latkes! tongue.gif
either way, it was really really wonderful seeing your posts, and answering your questions.

ps.
br- i did not eat any of our gelt.
just some at bingo! biggrin.gif
BeingReal
QUOTE(why? @ Dec 12 2007, 11:15 PM) [snapback]342269[/snapback]
maybe next year we can get one of you bums over so we can make you latkes! tongue.gif




I honestly don't think I've ever had latkes. Don't ask me why not....I just think I've never had the opportunity. They're potato pancakes, aren't they? If they're not and instead are rolls with a kind of potato filling, I think I've had one of those, but it was cold, from a store in Philly, and might have been a little stale. (It wasn't a positive epicurean experience, if you can guess!) unsure.gif


QUOTE(why? @ Dec 12 2007, 11:15 PM) [snapback]342269[/snapback]
ps.
br- i did not eat any of our gelt.
just some at bingo! biggrin.gif


Good for you! Has your diabetes settled down?



I strongly suspected the Gelt went missing when City passed it's way.... wink.gif

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