We want to do all of our Christmas shopping (not that we do alot of it mind you) in Downtown Lancaster. I don't know alot about the stores, and what they offer, other than shopping at Zaps and Stans Record Bar a bunch in the 80s.



Anybody who knows the shops of Downtown, please enlighten me of your personal knowledge of these establishments - hidden gems, good deals, places that sell items for all ages, etc.



Any help/insight will be greatly appreciated!



Jim

There is so much to see and do in Downtown Lancaster:

http://www.downtownlancaster.com/

Friday - November 30 from 5:00 to 9:00pm the stores will be open and music will be at some locations.

First Friday in December (the 7th) is the traditional Mayor's Tree Lighting at 6:30pm followed by Tuba Christmas allof which take place in Penn Square. Wrap the missus up and take her on a horse drawn carriage ride around the downtown. Take the little ones to see the toy train display on the second floor of Citizen's Bank. Hit all the downtown shops and admire the decorations. Central Market is also open that night. Hager Arcade Mall is next to Central Market and will be open that night.

Get warmed up with hot apple cider or coffee/cappucino/latte or hot chocolate inside Prince Street Cafe. See the decorations at Steinman Park.

Check out shops on first block of North Queen and West King then walk a few blocks north to the 300 block of North Queen for more unique shops.

Have some fun!!!

zanzibar is a great store.i got a shaving bush and a tub of shaving soap from italy that is really good and lasts forever. the brush was around $11 and the soap around $10 .

if you want to give inexpensive gifts you can buy some exotic soaps there that are a bit pricey compared to dial but it is something a lot of folks wouldn't buy for themselves.

the last time I visited lancaster was SEPT 2006. I LIKED UPTOWN A LOT, north queen street.

SHARP for jewelry and a glassmaker on n queen st.


DOWNTOWN:

TMB- nice sweaters, suits etc.

TMB- 40 n queen st


http://www.tmbclothing.com/



little shops across from central market are cool.. TAG, etc.


Check out the gift shops of the QUILT MUSEUM ETC, you can find unique stuff.

PAPPAGALLO-- BACK ROOM.... SHOES FOR SALE!!!


PAPPAGALLO

28 W. Orange St.
717-392-0222

Distinctive women's clothing, shoes & accessories with contemporary styling & personalized service.

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SORTA LIKE ANN TAYLOR OR Talbot stores. interesting costume jewelry too.


SHAUB's Shoe Store for their unusual pocketbooks...

I believe they were made by a local designer...



Lancaster City: Shaub's Shoe Store: Stop #18

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:bB8-fV...69%26q%3D551316


Happy Shopping!


YOU MAY FIND A BARGIN!!!


daisy


miami beach
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Lancaster, PA - Lancaster Downtown


http://www.downtownlancaster.com/






UPTOWN LANCASTER, PA

http://www.uptownlancaster.com/

ATTN: mcullen3212002

On 8/7/2007 you presented for payment check number 2805 drawn upon your Bank of Lancaster County checking account. On 11/1/2007 we attempted to cash this check, and it was returned unpaid citing that the account had been closed.

While we have made every attempt to reach you discretely, neither your mailing address nor telephone number are in service. As a result, we are hoping that existing members of this online service will forward this information to you so that you might contact us immediately to resolve this issue. We regret that this must be posted publicly, but we have found no other successful means of contacting you.

Please contact us immediately at http://www.TheSpeechPlace.com

Thank you for your timely reply.
the Speech Place Publishing company

TheSpeechPlace -- I find it highly objectionable you chose this forum in which to try to contact Mrs. Cullen. There are other avenues you can use to pursue whatever issue you may have, if in fact there is one. I have reported you to the moderators. And I'm surprised no one else has objected to this before me.



JRM

WHOA!!! Man, Mr. speech therapist I hope you know that what you just did is severely illegal, at least in Pennsylvania.

Perhaps you thought you were simply stretching the collection law's allowance for "going nearby" to contact a debtor, but unfortunately by even mentioning a debt being involved you are now liable for possibly being forbidden from doing business in Pennsylvania again in the future, and, more importantly, LOSING ALL YOUR ASSETS TO THE PERSON YOU TRIED TO HARASS.

Yes, Pennsylvania defines your little note as "debt collector harassment", among other things.

I am personally forwarding a copy of your post to the State Attorney General.

Have a nice day

P.S. - MODS - PLEASE do not send this thread to the abyss! The state will want to see it publicly posted where all can see it. Thanks!

One problem, they are not from Pennsylvania.

Pennsylvania debt collection laws apply to any business operating anywhere in the world. Violators can be barred from ever doing business within Pennsylvania in the future, even by internet.

They can also be prosecuted, fined, and sued into the ground by victims.

Any citizen can report an observed abuse of a debtor's rights and dignity to the State Attorney General.

Please visit www.attorneygeneral.gov/complaints.aspx?id=451 and either fill out the online form or call and tell them what you read posted against mcullen on here.

It also helps to have a lawyer AND a judge in the family.... if you get my drift...

Now that is the truth!

I would also contact the Federal Trade Commission:
www.ftc.gov or 1-877-382-4357

thespeechplace.com is a Yahoo! merchant, and the above post by them is a major violation of just about every privacy and security policy Yahoo! has written.

But one of Yahoo!'s little niceties is that you can't contact them about anything unless you have a Yahoo! account

Anyone here who is a Yahoo! member PLEASE contact them, send a link to the illegal post against mcullen and also copy the text of the post in your email.

I worked as a bill collector for 3 years and NEVER saw anything this completely outrageous. Publicly embarrassing a person because of their financial situation is bad enough. For a company that claims to be providing solutions for speech impairment to do such a thing tells me they have precious little "compassion" for people with problems of any kind.

Everyone, this is another opportunity for us to band together in a common cause - take down a scumbag!

quoted in full so that they may not edit or delete.

Posting this is completely inappropriate and I hope you are put out of business!

I also wonder why you waited almost 3 months to cash this check!!??

Thanks to City Dweller for alerting me to this post.

I have lived at the same address printed on my check for 26 years and my telephone number is listed in the phone book.

I bought this book at Schreiber Pediatric where my son goes for therapy almost every week. They also have my telephone number and address.

I am easy to find and contact.

Please be assured I will be in touch with you ,Speech Place Publishing ,immediately to address this matter.

Thank you to all my friends on Talkback. I appreciate your help!!!!

MAMC

OK, City, I have a Yahoo account, is it the 'feedback' link to report this scumbag?

I dunno. You'll probably have to surf through 1,00 layers of cover till you find the division that allegedly monitors Yahoo! store client compliance matters. Maybe try the "privacy" and "security" areas and look for "Report Violation". See ya in a week or two

From the looks of MAMC's post, she purchased this book at a brick and mortar store/office.

Something just doesn't seem quite right here. But I am sure that she will get to the bottom of it.

Request to remove thread/post has been sent to moderators, apology sent to mcullen3212002. If anyone has suggestions on how to remove the post, I'm all ears. And thanks to citydweller for the offensive and threatening voicemail. That really helps the situation. And the insulting PM. Enough to make a poor speech therapist blush.

Actions speak much louder than words and often elicit a virulent response. Your action in posting such information here was entirely more obscene than any words I can think of.

Just for the record, I called the "poor speech therapist" "stupid".

*edit* And the "threatening" voicemail said I was reporting him to the State AG and to Yahoo. Not a threat, but rather a response to seeing someone unnecessarily humiliated in public. Try getting some semantics therapy, jerk.

Blush all you want, dude. I feel pretty sure I was on the money with that one.

MODS - Please leave this up until the State AG has the opportunity to view a publicly posted violation of a PA consumer's rights and dignity.

All in favor?

"I"

Aye! This was tacky, let alone possibly illegal. I do hope the State AG takes the situation seriously and investigates whether laws were broken.

That's all ???

I think the Speech Place might have pulled this stunt on the wrong person. I mean the really, really wrong person.

Aye!



JRM

Sandy -- I found the page to report merchant abuse. Here's the link -- http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/shopping/general.html



Question #4 on the form is "What are you writing about?" It has a pull down menu. Report Merchant Abuse is the last item. Highlight that and fill out the rest of the form.



You know, one thing that keeps coming to my mind is -- how did this guy know what Mary Ann's screen name was? Very interesting.....



JRM

AYE

MaryAnne has made no secret of her real identity. It is very likely that a little diligence with an Internet search engine was enough to find it.

I hope this individual who made a minor private issue very public is well aware that all of the major search engines catalog the posts on Lancaster Online. As soon as the search engines do their regular updates, anyone who does a search for their business will learn of this post, and resulting thread.

Maybe it's a hoax.

At first I thought that as well, some kind of cruel joke or something. It just seems so unbelievable that a business would actually post something like this. Apart from the fact that it is apparently illegal, it is just in really poor taste. Of all the ways to contact someone this is ridiculous, even if it is a hoax, it is a really, really bad one.

me too. I find it hard to beleive that a business would do something like this. Maybe it is genuine, but there are so many stalkers and idiots out there that it seems more likely to be a fake.

This is really really unbelievable.

The only book on the website is listed for 19.95!!!!

I have someone local that owed me $2,000 for several years with apparently no intention to pay me back. I see the business is still advertising so I guess I am just not tops on the priority list BUT there's no way I am going to "out" them.

Here is the company's contact info - I noticed they don't give it on their main site:

http://rkrventures.com/index.html

I wonder if the MD AG would like to know about their business practices?

rh

It's no hoax.

I called the number listed on their Yahoo! site and left a message stating that their actions were despicable and that I was reporting them to the state. Not half an hour later Mr. Therapist was back in here pleading for the thread to be taken down and complaining about my "threatening" voicemail.

Some of you old-timers will recall that Mary Ann used to have her full name as her signature. That would google without much trouble and point here.

Now me, when I wanted to contact her about the vile post, well I pulled out the old phone book and had her on the horn in less than 30 seconds

Good job, City! I would think a therapist would be educated but apparently not. How about just googling the fair debt collection practices act before trying to collect a debt?

by the way...I

Hello. I am the author of this book and was just notified about this site and this thread. I am very upset and embarrased about how this was handled, as it was done without my knowledge. It's very unfortunate that this happened, but would only be worse if this thread ended up limiting the good that this project can produce.

I wrote this book to help spread awareness of speech and language disorders and am donating a portion of the money to the center where I used to work in Lancaster County - who helps thousands of children with disabilities. Many wonderful people have worked hard to promote this project and I ask you to lend some understanding and support as my hopes are to help these kids in a big way.

I've reached out to the individual affected by this situation to resolve the issue and obviously will be handling all customer service issues from this point forward. Thank you.

Wow, the little thread I started has taken quite a turn.....



Best wishes to all involved

Even though I am appalled that the Speech Therapist used this forum to contact an individual for a payment, but give the guy a break already. He made a big huge mistake. However, let it be known that those of who never made any mistakes in your lives can go ahead and cast your proverbial stones.

I too believe in forgiving in nearly all cases, but forgiveness is a personal matter, not a professional one.

"The guy made a huge mistake." This is an understatement. Someone pointed out earlier that Google will by now have this thread and all its content cached, and the therapist guy's business will likely come up under this in future Google searches.

True, but there's much more than that to it.

The Cullens will also be subject to this curse. She a lawyer and he a judge, and any interested party wanting to check them out on Google may well enter just enough search info that they will get a cached version of Mr. Therapist's "Dear Deadbeat" post. The searcher may not follow up further to see the entire context, or Google's inscrutable caching system may not provide an easy route to the rest of the thread.

So for the foreseeable future, the Cullen's now have it over their heads that someone wanting to find good references to them online may instead find a strong inference that they ignore bills, pass bad checks and dodge attempts at contact by slighted vendors.

Nice reference.

Yes Goldi, we all make mistakes, and I'll freely admit I've made my share in full.

I've also paid a price for the more incredibly stupid things I've done along the way. That's how it works - do something really stupid, pay the piper. If doing stupid thoughtless things didn't bring harsh rewards (in most cases), the world would look and act like an Outlet Center parking lot. It pays to think, and it costs not to.

That being said, I have a hard time believing that a supposedly successful therapist could really be too stupid to open a phone book or call Schreiber for contact info to settle a $20 issue, AFTER sitting on a check for three months.

That sounds more like lazy than stupid. Or even possibly lazy coupled with vindictive. The bounced check no doubt cost the vendor a fee at his end, and quite possibly in a thoughtless moment he sought to find a venue to make the check writer "pay the price" without bothering to think about the larger picture.

Either way, the damage is done and cannot be undone. Forgiven in the end by the Cullens, the author, Schreiber et al would be nice and warm and fuzzy, but he should meanwhile face the consequences of his incredibly stupid action.

Call it a learning experience.

Just to be clear, it wasn't the therapist who posted the note to begin with, it was the store? Is this right?

Apparently the therapist is the store (at least online), not to be confused with the author of the book or Schreiber Pediatric. Schreiber in particular has NO complicity in this, and does wonderful things for children who really need their help. Just to be clear. Send them money.

I totally agree. I don't think this person/people should be burnt at the stake. I just don't see what the big deal is. I'd hate to see someone burn for a rather inconsequential mistake, especially someone working in a field that helps people. Sh!t happens.

Doesn't seem like anyone cares any more but for the record, thanks lancaster for starting the thread, I'm taking my family to "first fridays" this friday night.

Melody & Goldilocks, I don't think someone should be burned at the stake; however, I don't think this is "inconsequential." Unfortunately, publicizing information (misinformation?) on the web like this does tend to be seen by a lot of people and could damage a person's reputation -- especially if you're a bit of a public figure. (One would think that a judge would qualify as a public figure, no?) Plus if laws exist to protect consumers (especially privacy laws) and those laws were violated by this person's actions, this should be addressed through the proper channels, IMO.





I'd love to hear how your experience went, Lanzate. Bundle up, tho -- the forecast is for a low in the low 20s that night!

There is usually a crowd on N. Prince St. between Rick Gray's house and Chestnut St. The smaller galleries in "Gallery Row" can be difficult to get into unless you arrive early. Of course, cold weather could cut the crowds down considerably.

Don't forget the other galleries. Gail Gray's is on the second floor of a building right across the street from Isaac's on N. Queen. There is a tiny gallery off Water just behind the A-Plus at Orange St., there are a lot of interesting items in that small basement. There are second floor galleries on Prince St. just across from the Fulton that have displayed some VERY nice pieces. And Mulberry Art Studios usually has two or three shows going on, and there are usually snacks and drinks; free parking is behind the building, off Grant St.

"First Friday" is not this Friday. There is an event called "Music Friday" that is this Friday, the 30th of November. The Clipper will be opening the ice skating park with music, carnival type attractions and fireworks at 8pm. The downtown shops will also be open with music attractions throughout the downtown.

Next Friday, December 7 is the downtown Christimas festivities. Central Market will be open and Rick Gray will "ho ho ho" with Santa.