Doonesbury's Trudeau Uses Racial Slur For Nat'l Security Advisor Rice

Do you ever have a pleasant thought? It is obvious that this cartoon alludes to the rumor that Condi and Bush are "getting it on" in the White House. Just another attempt to troll. You really need to get a life.

How does that excuse a racist comment? It doesn't.

No one to call you something sweet huh? Brownsugar has been used as a pet name between lovers in the Black community for years, so I guess I don't see it as a racist remark. Would you have prefered he called her just plain sugar?

I'll do us both a favor, its obvious that you are on a troll mission, so I will bow out of this obviously stupid discussion about your perception of racism.

Warning: Thread closer on board. Do not attempt reasonable debate, she's a professional at getting them closed.

So...anyone who has ever used a possibly racist epithet in a work of fiction is a racist?

Cheap answer. If a Republican writer said that about Maxine Waters and any white leader a race war would break out. Any sane person knows this is just another leftist double standard on your part.

It's a cartoon, intended for amusement. Get a life. Isn't there some poor man somewhere missing his kids or something you else could go save. It truly boggles the mind how you and Starbust set out to deliberately incite arguments.

We do? As though that is exclusive to us? Yet another categorically false comment from the left.

Sally, just because you ignore my question, doesn't make it disappear. What say you? I'll reiterate below.

Oh, where does indicate in anyway that it was directed towards me?

So you seem to think there are places for racist epithets. Can you expand on this?

This is your thread and your accusation, no?



You can find them in books and movies and cds!

Technically, the Lancaster Newspapaers own ALL the threads here and their content.

So now you say because it is done so often in so many places, its okay to continue to do.

At what point, or put another way, how many times does something wrong have to be done for it to become acceptable to do?

Try using that logic as a defense for a rapist or a drug dealer in court sometime.

Har har. Your "Technically..." comment is just blather. If only people were actually convinced by filler. Keep up the good work, you're really showing your true self.

Actually, I didn't say it's okay. My question was, "So...anyone who has ever used a possibly racist epithet in a work of fiction is a racist?"

Yes or No, Sally. Please circle one. These writers, painters, musicians, etc. deserve an up-or-down vote. I'll rephrase, just for you: If someone uses a potentially racist word in a work of fiction, is he/she then automatically racist?

I'm not even asking why here! Just yes or no! All I need is an answer, and then we can begin the public protection campaign.

Essex girl

The only racist on this board is you.

Sorry, the circle button isn't showing up on my screen.

If stated for clarity of the listener/viewer to understand what evil the writer/creator is denouncing then no. If used as though it is acceptable language or to insult then yes it is racist.

Hey Sally, I hear that Jesus is giving a speech on Prince and Chestnut you better run over there before he heads to his next stop.

I'm Jewish, but thanks for the invite.

Are you saying that you're better than Jesus?

Racist!!!!

Liberal Debate Tactic 104: When all else fails declare someone's religion void and insult them. Then call their right to faith to be racist aspect of their thinking.

Sociopath debate tactic #4,234: Pretend you're dumber than you really are so that people pity you.

Sociopath debate tactic #4,235: Accept no responsibility for one's inadequacy; common scapegoat: social workers.

Sociopath debate tactic #4,236: Literally interperet all jokes and sarcasm.

Dude, those are are Liberal Debate Tactics, except they blame the right for everything.

Revealing your true identity, Pauly Shore, does not improve your chances of attaining credibility.

Weeeeeel. According to Trudeau, the racist is Bush. Cartoonists put words into people's mouths - as they think those people would say them, certainly not as the cartoonist would say them, so I don't get the topic. Oh - trolling? Okay, I get it.

My doctor explained to me that the term "dude" is an obsolete medical term that described an infected ingrown hair on one's anus.

Well, I've never had one, so I wouldn't know that. Nevertheless, too much information.

OK hate to jump into this (well maybe not) but if ANY ONE OTHER THAN Garry Trudeau would have referred to any black person in any light, including 'fictional comedy' as 'Brown Sugar' there would be a major revolt... can't deny that! For me it is just someplace I would not go no matter the 'enemy's' political ideology.

Heck it offends me and I'm WHITE for heaven's sake! It is in poor taste and only serves to perpetuate a stereotype and is offensive because-- whether you appreciate Condi Rice's boss or not-- she is a positive role model and example of a successful black woman, i.e. the cream that has risen to the top! Further it serves only to undermine the American people and the good that she is doing in the world.

Wonderful post and you're not a dude.

Scalewoodman, and yet you're not offended when Sally categorizes a diverse and large group of people (liberals) as "the real racists." Interesting.

Incidentally,

Sociopath tactic # 5,656: Occasionally resort to crude, childish insults in between attempts to prove one's intelligence, maturity, and status as a reliable source of information.

Yeah.... yeah.... yeah... WOO!!! How come ya look so good? Yeah yeah yeah WOO!

I can not WAIT to see the Rolling Stones again in concert!

Recovering Liberal Debate Tactic 101: Liberaling the Liberals a.k.a Reflective Posting. They hate dealing with themselves.

Hey, I'm not the one with zits on my ace.

Actually I was responding to the thread which was about Condi Rice and the Doonesbury cartoon! Imagine your 'diverse and large group' if someone would refer to any of 'them' as 'brown sugar' even in the context of humor! See... wouldn't fly in that context, would it? A self-respecting person of color would find it condescending and demeaning-- it is just not a 'politically correct' place to go! You don't see the double standard?

I'm pretty sure Sally can take care of herself! She doesn't need rescued by this 'dude'!

I might consider looking into the actions of the person responsible for the remark, but I wouldn't be so crass as to generalize an entire group of people. I realize that there are varying degrees of Bush supporters. Some are idiots, others not. Oops, it's not a double standard.

Just curious, Scalewoodman, are you a person of color? And, are you saying that oftheimmoralminority has no self-respect?

oftheimmoralminority's Liberal trumps everything else. He's one hard-left individual.

Faulkner's Liberal is fading!!

He said there is a middle ground! Horray!!! Go Faulkner!

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So, are you also saying that oftheimmoralminority is lacking self-respect?

No. Are you?

It's obvious that I'm not but as usual, you seem to be having problems following the thread. My legitimate question was based on Scalewoodman's post #34 and your post #37.

I wasn't but as usual, mighty pretentious of you.

Since when is asking a question pretentious? You're the one who posted a response to my question to Scalewoodman.

It wasn't the question that was in question.

Self respect: Not my place to know that; I only speak for myself. I am white; I told you above; but would be offended on behalf of my black friends. I'd be peed over the top if was with one and the phrase was used. I'd have spanked my child for using it. I'd have walked out of any public place where such terminology is used. And I have too much respect for the President and Condileeza Rice to use it even in humor about them since it's such a sensitive area.

OK do me a favor: Go to an NAACP meeting or the Rainbow Coalition and ask around if anyone would be offended to be called 'Brown Sugar'? What do you think the answer would be?

And don't you think your response is infantile?

But let's be real! The intended 'humorous' insult was that somehow President Bush might actually talk like that?! So preposterous it's not even funny-- remember lots of people only read the comics and the cartoons out of the entire paper! As I said before, only Garry Trudeau could get away with this license.

Well, Rice did refert to Bush as "my husband" in conversation.

Since when is the word husband race related?

In the late sixties, early seventies some refered to young women as birds. The Beatles did it a lot. So if Ringo was leaning up against a lamp post as a group of black women walked by and said "Blimey, would you look at that flock of starlings!" Would that be racist?

No it would be sexist.

Cork Soaker!