"There are many in our party today who would not accept Ronald Reagan as he was when he left office. He was originally a Democrat and had ties to Hollywood. He had divorced and had raised taxes when he was governor of California. His views on immigration would pose a problem."

I heard this in person so you may not be able to just Google this one.

also reagan never went to church in his life, which explains why evangelicals supported him overwhelmingly.LOL

Maybe the reason that they supported him was because of the same reason that so many supported Obama. They were not thrilled with the alternative.....

Well, he was an actor, not the best, but good enough to convince the mouth breathers he was some sort of moral person.

so then evangelicals can support a heathen if the alternative is a christian they dislike?

No takers on who said this? You may be surprised a little.

well it would have to be someone who is sane so that narrows it down significantly.

I'm thinking it's Rush.

Ron Paul

r u telling me I stumped mnepats. ceejay, Reagan Republican, GRieker, and others??

John McCain?

Arnold Schwarzenegger

After giving this a bit more thought,

I believe that a statement like this could only be made by a RINO.

It would be a RINO who was experiencing some difficulty with his or her own party and looking for an excuse for their low approval ratings with the Republican electorate.

And if you heard this personally, it would likely be a local politician.

Is it Arlen Specter?

Tom Ridge or Dick Thornberg

why? the person who said that wasn't dissing reagan, they were dissing the radical takeover of the gop by those who have their own agenda.
does a draft dodger who was thriced divorced and addicted to drugs who engaged in criminal activity and supported the mostly nonconservative policies of bush jr for sound like someone you want to follow?
if so jolly good, i would love to do business with you.

Bill Buckley? (RIP)

Arlen Specter is my guess...

Let me guess, Joe....you are one of those party faithful that votes straight line party no matter who is running.....

Sarah Palin......

Heathen?
OMG.
Here we go with the new incantation of Witch Trials 2010.
Michelle Bachman can stand as head judge, jury and executioner.

It's bad enough now as it is when the religious fringe is attacking any order outside of theirs and saying something to the effect of "If they aren't of this faith, they have no right to serve in elected office".
Can't be Jewish...they killed Jesus. (fact check, the polytheist Romans killed Jesus.)
Can't be Wiccan, since that's a witch.
Can't be Muslim...we're at war with them (despite everything out previous leader said to the contrary)
Can't be Hindu...Americans just know they look Arab and that's close enough to be distrustful.

It's a sad state when our Nation of melting pot heritage forgets the fact that the only non-immigrant to this country was ruthlessly rounded up and herded onto reservations. Never mind the facts, a bigot's mind is made up long before a person tries to talk sense.

Thanks for restating the obvious.

Who would that be?



You didn't comprehend justplainjoe's post, but that didn't stop you from a good rant.

Perhaps I should have indicated I wasn't ranting at justplainjoe. But more the concept in general. I did understand his post. I've just been subjected to the religious vitriol more than once in the last few years. I'm sick of the true holy rollers that think they are the only option and attack others for being different than what they practice. To be told I can't have a political opinion because I'm not Christian and this country was founded by Christians...well...you might see where I went with that.

So, no correct answers.

I heard Michael Steele say this last week. He would seem to have his hands full with social conservatives right now, maybe it had something to do with that Congressional race in upstate NY.
When you hear him speak, he seems to understand that the Republican party will have to work to come into power, that it won't just happen.

Anyhow, he also bristled when someone (stupidly) criticized him for not speaking up about Rush Limabugh and said he did not know if Glenn Beck is a Republican.

So Steele criticizes the deficit spending of the past eight years and also seems to want a more inclusive party than others do. And some day, I assume he will re-enter politics in Maryland where he won't get elected if he acts like Jim DeMint.

Amen to that.

sorry skeptic..i missed this thread until after you answered it..

i would not have guessed steele

my favorite steele quote is from earlier this year..on beck's show..

"You have absolutely no reason, none, to trust our word or our actions at this point."

how prophetic..



"Y'all come. I got the fried chicken and potato salad." - Steele 7/17/09

sounds like socialism...

I remember seeing a T-shirt during the '80 election. It said, "Why not an actor? We've had clown for four years."

no i was just wondering how an evangelical could vote for a guy who never went to church in his life and followed astrology.
over a christian.
it seems to me reagan fits the discription of what a lot of evangelicals would call devil worship.



hey quincy i was making a joke.
see reagan , if he were a liberal would be called a heathen and a devil worshipper.



trust me on this one, quiny, i ain't no holy roller.

It is quite simple, Joe. I vote for the person that I feel is the best one for the job. I am not swayed simply by the person's political party or religious affiliation. There are many out there that do not attend church on a regular basis that have more character and integrity than some that do.....

wow so you voted for al gore and john kerry?

So Scozzafava has pulled out of the Congressional race in upstate NY. She is the moderate or liberal Republican running against a Democrat and a Conservative Party candidate Hoffman.

Clearly, money talks.

The spring primary resulty for that district is overturned and people from outside the district like Palin and Pawlenty have had their way. The RNC is backing Hoffman. If he wins, as is likely now, the Republicans keep a district that has been in their hold for many years. If he loses, it's a disaster, and Michael Steele and Newt Gingrich, amongst others, will probably say I told you so.

when the gop is so far to the crazy rabid right that newt gingrich is a moderate by comparrison, it's time to dust off the ol' tin horn and play "taps".

Gingrich, Steele and Cornyn are the ones saying that the party is toast if they don't show some tolerance of people who have differing views. The NY Times is predicting the same forces will be at work next year to keep Florida Gov. Christ from winning a US senate seat. They could find other moderates to pick off. Pumping $5 million into an opponent's campaign fund can destroy a congressional candidate. Guess it will cost a lot more to defeat Christ in FL since most people have never heard of his opponent Rubio.

Are you kidding? They're Democrats, not Christians.

Very funny with the calls for GOP tolerance. Let's review again which party is shutting the opposition party out of committee meetings on capitol hill. Funny how quickly those Democratic calls for the sharing of power disappeared once the Democrats got the upper hand.

but reagan wasn't a christian either, he was a republican.
dc said the standard is whether they would do a better job. the jury is back in , and the answer is an overwhelming yes.
based on the fact that even a chimp couldn't do a worser job than bush jr.




of course the gop shared power with the dems all the time, right? like that time they let barney frank write and pass laws over their objections that caused the near collapse of our economy.

Why do you tempt the weak like that?

overcoming temptation makes one stronger. "he who overcomes shall inherit all things."

There probably is some payback at work in Congress, but it has little to do with what I'm talking about.

A rural district in upstate NY picks a candidate in the primary. Well after the primary, she finds herself attacked by powerful forces from outside the district, watches as the polls turn against her and she is then encouraged to drop out. She now says that she didn't want to be a spoiler- she was the endorsed candidate!

I don't think Palin endorsing Hoffman or Hannity ripping Scozzafava defeated her, I think the money crushed her.

When we elect a president, it seems that a handful of people in PA, FL and Ohio are the only ones who matter. If this type of national annointing of regional candidates is succesful you will see an intense focus on selected congressional races.

I think we should probably publicly fund campaigns, but both national parties are against it.

after trashing him earlier...

so much for personal responsibility...




what's hilarious is..

hoffman doesn't even live in the district...

and how do you know hoffman is a conservative?

Douglas Hoffman, the Conservative Party candidate for the 23rd Congressional District, showed no grasp of the issues pertinent to district residents.....in a Thursday morning meeting with the Watertown Daily Times editorial board. - 10/23/09

no wonder palin like him..

Looks like Hoffman has lost at this hour.

If so, first Democrat to win in 23rd district in 100 years.

I said that I feel......not what you feel.....

Maybe we better start with your definition of a Christian....

And I would like to hear your definition of weak....

well i would say a christian is one who tries to live his life in adherence to the teachings of jesus. you know, love thy neighbor as thyself, change water into wine, go to lots of parties, throw the hypocrites out of the churches.
that sort of thing.

Do you fit this description?