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[dragonrider]

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These United States ranks 29th behind the czeck republic for infant mortality. If you are for the right to life what are you doing to reduce the infant mortality rate in the US. Supporting SCHIP? Supporting indigent mothers need for balanced meals? Support for the Unborn? what about the born are you supporting lowering the infant mortality rate.

[ganzeinfach]

Gianna Jessen's mom aborted her, thirty-one years ago

After being burned alive for about 18 hours by the saline solution, Gianna was delivered alive in a Los Angeles County abortion clinic. She weighed just 2 pounds at birth, and doctors said she would never crawl or walk.

Today, Gianna walks with a slight limp — and runs marathons. She recently was featured in a TV ad that challenged Obama over his repeated opposition to the Illinois Born Alive Infant Protection Act when he was a state senator in Illinois. He voted four times in three years against legislation that would have saved the lives of babies that managed to survive the abortion process. State Senator Obama was chairman of the committee that opposed this protection of babies, and in 2001 and 2002 was the only legislator who rose to argue against the Illinois Born Alive Act.


In response to Gianna’s TV ad a new ad by Obama calls her a liar, sleazy and vile.

[ace1969]

These United States ranks 29th behind the czeck republic for infant mortality. If you are for the right to life what are you doing to reduce the infant mortality rate in the US. Supporting SCHIP? Supporting indigent mothers need for balanced meals? Support for the Unborn? what about the born are you supporting lowering the infant mortality rate.

Separate issues.

Besides, Gambia is ranked #29

https://www.cia.gov/...r/2091rank.html

[dragonrider]

Separate issues.

Besides, Gambia is ranked #29

https://www.cia.gov/...r/2091rank.html

Not a seperate issue at all. Why do you want to turn your back on children that are born while fighting for the unborn?

[AngelFace]

Not a seperate issue at all. Why do you want to turn your back on children that are born while fighting for the unborn?

About a half million babies are born prematurely in the U.S. every year. There are a lot of contributing factors, some genetic, some nutritional, some poor prenatal care -- but also among which are the mother's drug/alcohol use, as well as previous abortions. There are many pro-life people just as involved with Save the Children, Feed the Children, and pro-life groups that provide free prenatal and post-partum care. This isn't either or. You can do both.

[Harl Delos]

Separate issues.

Besides, Gambia is ranked #29

https://www.cia.gov/...r/2091rank.html

That table is "upside down". The Gambia is 29th from the worst, not 29th from the best.

The US, with an infant mortality rate of 6.30, isn't 29th best, though. It's 41st best. Singapore's infant mortality rate of 2.30 means they avoid 2/3 of the deaths that we allow to happen to wanted babies. The Czech Republic is 13th-best, with an infant mortality rate of 3.83.

Mr. & Mrs. Forry, you might want to explain to your daughter that more than half of all pregnancies are aborted. In most cases, God is the abortionist, and in many cases, it happens so early on that the mother isn't aware that she has lost a baby; she usually just thinks that she had a late, heavy period. My late first wife and I had one boy who arrived alive, three babies who did not. I suppose we may have conceived others that we weren't aware of.

One study several years ago suggested that when Down Syndrome is diagnosed prior to birth, about 90% of all parents aborted the pregnancy. However, the only reason that the diagnosis occured before birth was because the parents feared the baby might have a birth defect, and they didn't feel up to the challenge. The fact that 10% chose to have the baby anyway suggests that they decided a Down Syndrome baby would be welcome. And most pregnant women do not have any tests performed.

"There won't be any more" is simply not true.

My first wife was dying from lupus. She would have loved to adopt, but we couldn't get approved because of her health. She specifically thought a Down Syndrome baby would be wonderful to have. Why, I asked, and she said, "Because they're so sweet." She worked as charge nurse in a neonatal intensive care unit; she knew of the special challenges faced by parents of Down Syndrome kids.

My current wife says she'd like to adopt a Down Syndrome baby, too. She's a TSS and she knows of those special challenges, too. My son is now a grandfather, and we're really too old to be caring a baby.

Not a seperate issue at all. Why do you want to turn your back on children that are born while fighting for the unborn?

Most people are against abortion. Those who want to make it a crime, however, seem to think that fornication is a sin and believe that pregnancy is the punishment. When God listed the Ten Commandments, however, adultery (which is violation of the marriage vow) was listed as a sin, while fornication didn't even get an honorable mention. And if their God punishes children for the actions of their parents, they're worshipping an awfully small God; the one I worship thinks children are wonderful.

[pml]

Children CAN be wonderful, they can also destroy lives including killing their mothers. Incest is a crime yet John and Sarah want to force victims of incest to birth their molesters baby even at a very young age like 12 or 14. Incest babies are known to be born with birth defects adn since a twelve yr old can not hold a job, who will support these babies? You got it US! To me if you can not give a child a stable, financially secure home wiothout government aid, you should either abort or give up for adoption. BUT know that adoption in America is basically the selling of a baby. Adoption is expensive and who makes all the money--LAWYERS who most of you hate when they sue docs but think it is o.k. to charge prospective parents upwards of $25,000 to give a loving home to an unwanted child. You know many people who want to adopt had plenty of finances to support the child UNTIL they went through the adoption process. Then some I know claimed bankruptcy or have second and even third mortgages on their homes. Now they are on SCHIPS forcing me to support their adopted children. I say make adoption more affordable and also more permanent. The birth mother still ahs six months to change her mind and take the child back. Many adoptive parents do not want to live with that hanging over their heads.

[Right of Smart]

These United States ranks 29th behind the czeck republic for infant mortality. If you are for the right to life what are you doing to reduce the infant mortality rate in the US. Supporting SCHIP? Supporting indigent mothers need for balanced meals? Support for the Unborn? what about the born are you supporting lowering the infant mortality rate.

Infant mortality in America has everything to do with personal choices.
Woman who choose to do drugs or eat unhealthy meals is wide spread in America.
They know better but choose to do whats wrong. Another government program to tell them they should not do heroine while pregnant won't work! Another program to tell them they are 80lbs overweight with high blood preassure won't work!
It's their choice to be fat and on drugs. Too bad the kids pay the price.

[clanker]

A segment of pro-lifers favor the extreme of saying that life begins at conception and should be protected by law. This includes the opinion that contraception should be banned. Palin had sex without contraception after the age of 40, knowing the risk of having a down syndrome child. She can still have more children and I wonder how responsible that really is.

A couple I know have a child with extreme birth defects. He should have self-aborted, but surprisingly survived. He will never have anything near a normal existance as we know it and will be totally dependent for the rest of his life. His parents now have to spend a gread deal of their lives constantly attending to him. It's a huge, huge life changing thing and something that they decided to do, to their credit. You can't put a baby like this up for adoption and expect them to ever have an existance other than languishing in an institution. So what is the best way? Why should people not have a choice in a decision that would change their lives forever and how good is life for that child that must exist in a world that he doesn't even comprehend beyond simply knowing that his parent is there? Would it be a blessing if a relative of yours found themselves in a similar situation?

[june w.]

Separate issues.

Besides, Gambia is ranked #29

https://www.cia.gov/...r/2091rank.html

here is a link to the infant mortality rates for non-white americans. the statistics show that african-americans, hispanices and american indian and native alaskan populations have a 40% -50% higher rate of infant mortality compared to whites or asians and pacific islanders. i think it says a lot about our culture and the need for access to equal healthcare. just my opinion.


http://www.cdc.gov/omhd/AMH/AMH.htm

[pml]

Totally agree. Downs syndrome children are sweet and can live productive independent lives but for example water on the brain children can not. My husband's brother was born with water on the brain and they were told he would live 6 months. He lived 28 years, not being able to see, hear or feed himself and lived his days in a home at tax payer expense. I read a book where a young girl was pregnant with a water on the brain child and her parents took her to court to prevent an abortion.

Let us not forget that many children are born to parents who are poor or young and do not think of birth control and can not afford prenatal care(another problem with not having national healthcare.)



Mrs Pailin knew she could afford to bring this child into the world and the taxpayers of Alaska(who pay her health insurance) would take care of him. She has no right to expect "JOE SIXPACKS" wife to be able to afford to do the same and should not be able to force them to do so.

[GayDutchBoi]

I love the wing nuts like this. Typical republican 'once they leave the womb they are on their own' BS.

You know what, society has enough burdens and if some scared woman somewhere makes the most personal decision in her life then we all need to shut up and respect that woman just as much as we're respecting Scary Palin for bringing her 'special needs' kid into this world.

The first "dude" must have provided Sarah with some really bad sperm.

[callabelle]

This whole topic is almost a complete waste of everyone's energy. You will not change my mind and I know I will not change yours. We each have our views on the pro-life/pro-choice topic and I guess I have a hard time understanding why so many people hold it in such high standard when it comes to govermental elections. A large majority of us will never be faced with the situation to have to think about the "choice" or make a "Decision" and the few of us that will, I'm sure most of us, when push comes to shove, are going to handle it based on the situation. I for one could stand up in a large crowd and say I personally could never have an abortion... but then the thought crosses my mind that it's my life or the baby's... so then what do the pro-lifers have to say? That the baby's life is more important than mine? So I sacrifice my life to bring a child into a single-parent situation (or even a no parent situation)... and you talk of these rare occassions where the child is going to be born with little to no control over his own life... each person is going to deal with their own situation differently and there's no point in getting ourselves all worked up over someone elses opinoin. Instead why don't you take this energy and go volunteer at the over crowded special needs class at your local elementary school... maybe find ways to reach out to the children that are being brought into less than ideal situations so they can find purpose in their life. Try to concil that 12 year old who was raped by her father or brother and is not growing up with a child because she couldn't abort it by law... or patrol the back alleys where women are dying along with their babies in the illegal attempts to end their pregnancys because the government won't allow them to make that personal decision legally. I don't know... it all seems like a never ending cycle...

[clanker]

And if we turn a pro-life stance into law, what kind of prison term should a woman receive for breaking it?