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Posted 03 June 2008 - 10:50 AM
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| Leaving church By Helen Colwell Adams 6/3/08 10:50 AM Barack Obama's decision to withdraw as a member of Trinity United Church of Christ is just s |
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 11:00 AM
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 11:26 AM
I honestly believe that there is a misconception surroundings this matter. Others possible do, but I do not hear gross political matters being discussed from the pulpit. I have been to more Church's than I can count in my life and really cannot recall outright political topics. Dragon, you are correct in what should be preached. I hear it preached all the time, minus political rhetoric.
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"You're a witness. You're always standing around watching what's happening, scribbling in your book what other people do. You have to get in the middle of it. You have to take sides. Make a contribution to the fight. Any fight. The one you believe in."
Arnold Epstein
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 11:32 AM
I honestly believe that there is a misconception surroundings this matter. Others possible do, but I do not hear gross political matters being discussed from the pulpit. I have been to more Church's than I can count in my life and really cannot recall outright political topics. Dragon, you are correct in what should be preached. I hear it preached all the time, minus political rhetoric.
I agree with you. At my church, if the pastor wants to use something from recent political news to make a point, he very carefully chooses his words so as not to look like he's endorsing or censuring a particular party or official. Our pastor never preaches about how to vote or anything like that.
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 12:40 PM
I honestly believe that there is a misconception surroundings this matter. Others possible do, but I do not hear gross political matters being discussed from the pulpit. I have been to more Church's than I can count in my life and really cannot recall outright political topics. Dragon, you are correct in what should be preached. I hear it preached all the time, minus political rhetoric.
Yep thats how my church preaches as well. I would never attend a church every sunday that told me how to vote, who to vote for. I go for inspiration about how I should be a better christian in how I live MY life and how "I" treat people I meet, how I uphold the sermon on the mount.
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 01:01 PM
Yep thats how my church preaches as well. I would never attend a church every sunday that told me how to vote, who to vote for. I go for inspiration about how I should be a better christian in how I live MY life and how "I" treat people I meet, how I uphold the sermon on the mount.
Part of that should be discussion concerning social and political issues - communication and instruction concerning the ongoing issues within a community/state/country and how living out the SOTM might influence how we respond to these issues. Some of these might make us uncomfortable - but seeing injustice and poverty without response should make us equally uncomfortable - if not physically ill.
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 01:39 PM
Maybe this is a dumb question, but ARE there churches--other than the handful of publicized mega-churches--that actually attempt to tell people for whom they should vote? I have never sat through any sermon like that in my life, neither as a church member nor as a visitor.
Part of that should be discussion concerning social and political issues - communication and instruction concerning the ongoing issues within a community/state/country and how living out the SOTM might influence how we respond to these issues. Some of these might make us uncomfortable - but seeing injustice and poverty without response should make us equally uncomfortable - if not physically ill.
eaglerick, I agree. These kinds of discussions may influence the way a person views a candidate based upon the candidate's stance on moral issues of importance to that person; however, that is not the same thing as a sermon that attempts to tell people for whom they should vote.
Part of that should be discussion concerning social and political issues - communication and instruction concerning the ongoing issues within a community/state/country and how living out the SOTM might influence how we respond to these issues. Some of these might make us uncomfortable - but seeing injustice and poverty without response should make us equally uncomfortable - if not physically ill.
eaglerick, I agree. These kinds of discussions may influence the way a person views a candidate based upon the candidate's stance on moral issues of importance to that person; however, that is not the same thing as a sermon that attempts to tell people for whom they should vote.
"I need a large sock full of horse manure." Woody Allen
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 01:52 PM
Maybe this is a dumb question, but ARE there churches--other than the handful of publicized mega-churches--that actually attempt to tell people for whom they should vote? I have never sat through any sermon like that in my life, neither as a church member nor as a visitor.
eaglerick, I agree. These kinds of discussions may influence the way a person views a candidate based upon the candidate's stance on moral issues of importance to that person; however, that is not the same thing as a sermon that attempts to tell people for whom they should vote.
Maybe its one of them urban legends but I kept hearing about evangelical churches where they handed out voting score cards along with the church bulletin. Never attended any such church so I for one only know what I heard on the TV about it.
eaglerick, I agree. These kinds of discussions may influence the way a person views a candidate based upon the candidate's stance on moral issues of importance to that person; however, that is not the same thing as a sermon that attempts to tell people for whom they should vote.
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