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post Feb 13 2008, 12:00 PM
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Walking the walk
By Gil Smart
2/13/08 11:00 AM


Obama sweeps three more primaries, and now


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post Feb 13 2008, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(Lancaster Online @ Feb 13 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]357064[/snapback]


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"I don’t know that I am a fan of an immediate withdrawal from Iraq because I think the place then simply implodes, and the consequences could be disastrous."

Have you given this more thought than Obama, or is Obama simply telling people what they want to hear?

The inescapable truth is that there will be no immediate withdraw from Iraq under an Obama administration. I know it, you know it and he knows it.


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post Feb 13 2008, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(Pericles @ Feb 13 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]357107[/snapback]

The inescapable truth is that there will be no immediate withdraw from Iraq under an Obama administration. I know it, you know it and he knows it.






Even if he legitimately wanted to do it, I think his advisors, the military establishment convnices him not to. And maybe that's wise, though there indeed does need to be some plan to disengage, unless the plan really is to make Iraq into another South Korea, except with more explosions.



But as I said, I see Obama as the only candidate who would prevent the U.S. from making the same mistake twice.

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post Feb 13 2008, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(gsmart @ Feb 13 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]357109[/snapback]




Even if he legitimately wanted to do it, I think his advisors, the military establishment convnices him not to. And maybe that's wise, though there indeed does need to be some plan to disengage, unless the plan really is to make Iraq into another South Korea, except with more explosions.



If he does legitimately want an immediate disengagement in Iraq, then I think Democrats need to take a very hard look at his intellect. But I believe he's simply telling people exactly what they want to hear. He's feeding them B.S. and they're eating it up.
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post Feb 13 2008, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(Pericles @ Feb 13 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]357122[/snapback]

He's feeding them B.S. and they're eating it up.




GW has been doing that for 8 years and i don't ever hear you sitting here and complaining about it? I guess because hes a Republican he's allowed to do it??

And like Gil stated, even if thats what he wants to do, his advisors would probally disagree, and he strikes me as the type that would actually listen. Unlike your Cowboy GW, its his way or no way and he doesn't want to hear any differant.

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post Feb 13 2008, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(Pericles @ Feb 13 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]357122[/snapback]


But I believe he's simply telling people exactly what they want to hear. He's feeding them B.S. and they're eating it up.




Kind of like Bush did to get us into Iraq (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Feb 13 2008, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(easy @ Feb 13 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]357154[/snapback]


Kind of like Bush did to get us into Iraq (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)



Take your invective and go somewhere else. Bush isn't running for election, Obama is. It's a legitimate discussion.


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GW has been doing that for 8 years and i don't ever hear you sitting here and complaining about it? I guess because hes a Republican he's allowed to do it??

And like Gil stated, even if thats what he wants to do, his advisors would probally disagree, and he strikes me as the type that would actually listen. Unlike your Cowboy GW, its his way or no way and he doesn't want to hear any differant.


Again the discussion concerns Obama, not Bush.

If you noticed, I've also been siting here and not complaining about corporate welfare, global warming, Chinese human rights abuses, Arab totalitarianism, Darfur, the cost of gasoline, and a million other subjects. But that's just me. I try to stick to the subject at hand.
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post Feb 13 2008, 02:58 PM
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Take your invective and go somewhere else. Bush isn't running for election, Obama is. It's a legitimate discussion.




Again the discussion concerns Obama, not Bush.

If you noticed, I've also been siting here and not complaining about corporate welfare, global warming, Chinese human rights abuses, Arab totalitarianism, Darfur, the cost of gasoline, and a million other subjects. But that's just me. I try to stick to the subject at hand.




Of course you do. How silly of me you always stay on topic. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I didn't realize you were now the moderator of this thread? So rather than awnser the question posed you just deflect. Well typical. My point was something bugs you about one person but not about another, and the only differance is party affliliation. I'll let you and Gil go now so you can have your little circle jerk. Wouldn't want to upset you becuase we weren't staying on topic.

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post Feb 13 2008, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE(Lysol54 @ Feb 13 2008, 01:58 PM) [snapback]357181[/snapback]
...... I'll let you and Gil go now so you can have your little circle jerk. Wouldn't want to upset you becuase we weren't staying on topic.
What exactly is a "circle jerk"??
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post Feb 13 2008, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(dodgecrew @ Feb 13 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]357187[/snapback]
What exactly is a "circle jerk"??



http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=circlejerk

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post Feb 13 2008, 03:16 PM
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welllllll........

a: to kneel in a circle with others and pleasure oneself

OR

b: a pompous, self-congratulatory discussion where little to no progress is made

Hopefully we are talking about B!!

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post Feb 13 2008, 03:46 PM
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Take your invective and go somewhere else. Bush isn't running for election, Obama is. It's a legitimate discussion.






Questioning our dear leader was the equivalent of treason. Even though we (gasp) dared to think that our questions were (legitamate discussion) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) So now I'm supposed to bow and scrape while you hold court?



yes your Majesty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Feb 13 2008, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(easy @ Feb 13 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]357222[/snapback]


Questioning our dear leader was the equivalent of treason. Even though we (gasp) dared to think that our questions were (legitamate discussion) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) So now I'm supposed to bow and scrape while you hold court?

yes your Majesty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)



I gets rather tiring hearing the same old thing, day after day. BUSH, CHENEY, IRAQ, HALIBURTON ... especially when it has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.

It makes one doubt the ability of some to think independently.
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post Feb 13 2008, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(Pericles @ Feb 13 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]357227[/snapback]


I gets rather tiring hearing the same old thing, day after day. BUSH, CHENEY, IRAQ, HALIBURTON ... especially when it has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.

It makes one doubt the ability of some to think independently.




Pericles last time i checked you aren't the moderator of these boards?? So if you don't like the discussions then go somewhere else? Its really rather simple. I'm sure in another year your going to be on here complaining about having a Democratic President. I'm sure you'll complain about it every chance you get.

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post Feb 13 2008, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(Pericles @ Feb 13 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]357227[/snapback]


I gets rather tiring hearing the same old thing, day after day. BUSH, CHENEY, IRAQ, HALIBURTON ... especially when it has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.

It makes one doubt the ability of some to think independently.




I believe the supporters of the Republican party failed their country, not by electing Bush, but because they got so lock step behind him. If they would have shown the tiniest bit of willingness to hold the jokers that they elected accountable, then I would feel alot different about them. If the people who voted for Bush had the conversation, that I refered to, about invading Iraq, (the one you now want to have about Obama) then we wouldn't be in Iraq. Period. It's that simple.

Face up to this and I'll gladly leave my sarcasm in it's box.

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