[Lancaster Online]

[LicenseForMayhem]

"For the enormity of this event, there was not sufficient time to organize all the safety, security and technical support," Riordan said. "You don't pull an event like this together in 10 days."

"Enormity"? Freudian slip or mere ignorance of the fact that "enormity" is more accuratetly used to connote some grave moral wrong as opposed to large size? You decide.

[Goldilocks]

"For the enormity of this event, there was not sufficient time to organize all the safety, security and technical support," Riordan said. "You don't pull an event like this together in 10 days."

"Enormity"? Freudian slip or mere ignorance of the fact that "enormity" is more accuratetly used to connote some grave moral wrong as opposed to large size? You decide.

Interesting observation, License.


USAGE NOTE Enormity is frequently used to refer simply to the property of being great in size or extent, but many would prefer that enormousness (or a synonym such as immensity) be used for this general sense and that enormity be limited to situations that demand a negative moral judgment, as in Not until the war ended and journalists were able to enter Cambodia did the world really become aware of the enormity of Pol Pot's oppression. Fifty-nine percent of the Usage Panel rejects the use of enormity as a synonym for immensity in the sentence At that point the engineers sat down to design an entirely new viaduct, apparently undaunted by the enormity of their task. This distinction between enormity and enormousness has not always existed historically, but nowadays many observe it. Writers who ignore the distinction, as in the enormity of the President's election victory or the enormity of her inheritance, may find that their words have cast unintended aspersions or evoked unexpected laughter.

Enormity defined 1

Enormity defined 2

[Hope]

License, are you trying trying to stir up trouble? Do you read something negative into everything?

[Goldilocks]

License, are you trying trying to stir up trouble? Do you read something negative into everything?

On License behalf, no she is not stirring up trouble, only discussing the usage of the word “enormity”.

Definition of "enormity"

[i]1.The quality of passing all moral bounds; excessive wickedness or outrageousness.
2. A monstrous offense or evil; an outrage.[/i]

enomity link

This post has been edited by Goldilocks: 14 June 2007 - 09:40 AM

[oftheimmoralminority2]

On License behalf, no she is not stirring up trouble, only discussing the usage of the word "enormity".

Definition of "enormity"

1.The quality of passing all moral bounds; excessive wickedness or outrageousness.
2. A monstrous offense or evil; an outrage.[/i]

Main Entry: enor·mi·ty
Pronunciation: i-'nor-m&-tE
Function: [i]noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
1 : an outrageous, improper, vicious, or immoral act <the enormities of state power -- Susan Sontag> <other enormities too juvenile to mention -- Richard Freedman>
2 : the quality or state of being immoderate, monstrous, or outrageous; especially : great wickedness <the enormity of the crimes committed during the Third Reich -- G. A. Craig>
3 : the quality or state of being huge : IMMENSITY <the inconceivable enormity of the universe>
4 : a quality of momentous importance or impact <the enormity of the decision>


usage Enormity, some people insist, is improperly used to denote large size.They insist on enormousness for this meaning, and would limit enormity to the meaning "great wickedness." Those who urge such a limitation may not recognize the subtlety with which enormity is actually used. It regularly denotes a considerable departure from the expected or normal <they awakened; they sat up; and then the enormity of their situation burst upon them. "How did the fire start?" -- John Steinbeck>. When used to denote large size, either literal or figurative, it usually suggests something so large as to seem overwhelming <no intermediate zone of study. Either the enormity of the desert or the sight of a tiny flower -- Paul Theroux> <the enormity of the task of teachers in slum schools -- J. B. Conant> and may even be used to suggest both great size and deviation from morality <the enormity of existing stockpiles of atomic weapons -- New Republic>. It can also emphasize the momentousness of what has happened <the sombre enormity of the Russian Revolution -- George Steiner> or of its consequences <perceived as no one in the family could the enormity of the misfortune -- E. L. Doctorow>.

[littledutchboy]

Festival organizers had hoped the event would help strengthen the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community in Lancaster, York and other surrounding counties.

Why does this so called community need strengthening anyhow? Can't they do that by having a picnic at the park? Of course they would not get in our faces at the park would they? Which I believe is the true MO for their "festival".



How about " I don't care who or what you have sex with ....just stay the heck out of my face!!!! or You don't tell and I will not ask and no one will care?

[june w.]

Why does this so called community need strengthening anyhow? Can't they do that by having a picnic at the park? Of course they would not get in our faces at the park would they? Which I believe is the true MO for their "festival".



How about " I don't care who or what you have sex with ....just stay the heck out of my face!!!! or You don't tell and I will not ask and no one will care?

straight people get to "get in the faces" of gay people every single day... when we walk hand in hand down the street, when we put our engagements and weddings in the paper, when our friends and family acknowledge our choices in partners, when we get to add our spouse to our insurance, when our next of kin is considered our spouse in the event of an emergency or death, etc. when gay people have the same right to acknowledge who they are, who their partners are, etc without the fear of violence and with their rights protected than maybe this "so called community" will stop having gay pride festivals and other community events.

[dc]

straight people get to "get in the faces" of gay people every single day... when we walk hand in hand down the street, when we put our engagements and weddings in the paper, when our friends and family acknowledge our choices in partners, when we get to add our spouse to our insurance, when our next of kin is considered our spouse in the event of an emergency or death, etc. when gay people have the same right to acknowledge who they are, who their partners are, etc without the fear of violence and with their rights protected than maybe this "so called community" will stop having gay pride festivals and other community events.

Are you saying that I should not hold my wife's hand as we walk down the street because it gets in the face of gay people?

[june w.]

Are you saying that I should not hold my wife's hand as we walk down the street because it gets in the face of gay people?

not at all... i am just saying that the idea that gay people are "in the face of" straight people is ridiculous. it would be nice if gay couples could walk down the street hand in hand too without fear of what people will say or do. i also take objection with the idea that gays can be who they are as long as they stay in the closet... those days should be over by now but they aren't.

[ihavehorns]

"For the enormity of this event, there was not sufficient time to organize all the safety, security and technical support," Riordan said. "You don't pull an event like this together in 10 days."

"Enormity"? Freudian slip or mere ignorance of the fact that "enormity" is more accuratetly used to connote some grave moral wrong as opposed to large size? You decide.

Why are you so hateful? I can't stand knowing people like you live in the same world as me.

[dc]

....... when our friends and family acknowledge our choices in partners.........

Do you mean acknowledge or accept??

[Scubabike420]

it would be nice if gay couples could walk down the street hand in hand too without fear of what people will say or do.

I can see the concern over the "do" part, but the what people say? I think it would be nice if people were allowed to have opinions and express them no matter who it might offend. Can you please point me to where the right to not be offended is guaranteed. I'm suppose to not offend homosexuals by my comments, but I am also not suppose to express my being offended by a festival honoring homosexuality? What you are saying is people are aloud to express their opinion on homosexuality as long as it is in support of your view. All others must be homophobic and have some deeply hidden homoerotic fantasies. Its a tired old tune.



Did you ever think that maybe the reason homosexuals feel so out of place in our community and society is that they are living in a community and society that has been built on thousands of years of heterosexual relationships. That although homosexuality has always been around, no society until recent times has ever embraced it as a replacement for heterosexual relationships. That even in the hay day of gay friendly Greece, homosexual relationships were not granted the same benefits and protection as heterosexual relationships.

[groundpounder]

Why are you so hateful? I can't stand knowing people like you live in the same world as me.

What are you talking about? They were talking about the use of the word. What are you reading into the post. Settle down, Horns, before you blow a gasket.



Scuba, I could not have said it any better. I am tired of hearing all the homos yelling everytime someone does not agree with their lifestyle.

[Save-the-Land]

Some people here are reading way too much into this. In my opinion the use of "enormity" is fine in this context. It had no moral meaning assigned, but does touch on the negative aspect of this being a large task with not enough time to take care of everthing. It refers more to the fact that the group organizing this didn't leave enough time and left an enormous amount of work to be done in a short amount of time.



"I waited until the last moment to complete my tax returns, and then couldn't complete them because of the enormity of the task".