Driver ticketed in carpool lane cites fetus as passenger
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Sarah Muench and Geri Koeppel
The Arizona Republic
Dec. 14, 2005 01:55 PM
[size=2]A pregnant Ahwatukee Foothills woman ticketed for driving in a carpool lane will take her case to court in January, when she'll argue that her unborn child counts as a passenger.
Candace Dickinson, 23, hopes to overturn her penalty and prove her point that even though her child was still in the womb while she was driving on Interstate 10 on Nov. 8 in Ahwatukee Foothills, it still counted as a second person.
Frank Valenzuela, spokesman for the Arizona Department of Public Safety, said a vehicle can't occupy the high-occupancy vehicle lane unless two or more persons are in it. The statute doesn't define what a "person" is.
"However, I think we could all agree that for traffic enforcement, a person is another individual, not an unborn child," he added. "I'm sure she's not claming the child as a dependent on her taxes."
Valenzuela said it's not unheard of for women to use this argument to try to use the carpool lane, but it's very rare.
"The dummy in the car is more common than this," he said.
Dickinson could not be reached for comment.
The officer who cited her, Sgt. Dave Norton of the Phoenix Police Department, will also appear in court to argue against her.
Dickinson's court date is scheduled for 1:15 p.m. Jan. 10 in Phoenix Municipal Court downtown. She faces $390 in fines.
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#4 Guest_Starling_*
Posted 15 December 2005 - 12:55 PM
This isn't the first time this has been tried in AZ. I lived there for 4 years in the late 90's. If she wins the ruling, they'll just cite her for having "more than one person behind the wheel". Cheaters get caught.
#5
Posted 15 December 2005 - 01:42 PM
I think the 'spirt of the law' is pretty clear on this one.
Sorry, but stupid is as stupid does. I feel sorry for her kid.
Sorry, but stupid is as stupid does. I feel sorry for her kid.
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"One can always trust to time. Insert a wedge of time and nearly everything straightens itself out." -- George Norman Douglas
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#6
Posted 15 December 2005 - 10:45 PM
She's pregnant, forgive her and toss the ticket. It isn't like she helped her boyfriend commit a serial murder or anything really bad.
I'm sure you don't mean to imply that being pregnant gives the woman the excuse to flaunt rules? And "anything really bad"... hmmm... where do you draw the line? Implying that some rules can be broken but others can't is a dangerous thought process and a slippery slope.
I stand by what I said earlier: Cheaters get caught.
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