Judge sides with Drumore developer Options

[Lancaster Online]

[enlightened176]

Can't wait to see Charlie Smithgall roaming the aisles at 3 AM looking for cannon ammo.

[Hammer]

Yeah,it doesn`t matter what the local people want as long as the billionaire developer gets what he wants. (IMG:http://talkback.lancasteronline.com/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Keep it out!!!

[talonsfromheaven]

One more time: The Judicial system has shown it's true colours. It is time to dimantle this corpse of what was once a shining example of the best judicial system known to man. It is time for the people to stand up and cut off funding for these buffoons. It's time to tally the cost of this antiquated system of justice and for the people to relieze just how badly they are screwed over on a daily basis by the system. Judges rule as they are God's and dieties only because "We the People" allow them to.
Judges have no morals because the judicial system isn't moral.

[gp80mac]

One more time: The Judicial system has shown it's true colours. It is time to dimantle this corpse of what was once a shining example of the best judicial system known to man. It is time for the people to stand up and cut off funding for these buffoons. It's time to tally the cost of this antiquated system of justice and for the people to relieze just how badly they are screwed over on a daily basis by the system. Judges rule as they are God's and dieties only because "We the People" allow them to.
Judges have no morals because the judicial system isn't moral.

Did you even READ the article? (I'll put the relevant piece below):

"An applicant cannot be required to provide specific engineering design details of its proposed development at the conditional use stage," Leavitt writes. "Further, whether a specific system … will be approved is a decision for DEP, not the hearing officer."

Pretty cut and dry.

[justplainjoe]

they pist and moaned about the walmart in ephrata and that placed is packed everyday. the people want it, just not the people who live next door. them's the chances you take when you live next to a farm in lancaster county.
besides..the owner of that land has rights as well. is he supposed to just keep it so some folks can drive by and say "look dear...more open space."
or is he allowed to sell his own property without someone else dictating the terms.
it ain't like open space is hard to find down there.

[4wheeler]

Then let them put it in your back yard, Joe, then you can !profanity! and moan when crime around you goes up.

[abob]

Joe is right. Each property owner has rights too. The developer must meet the requirements that will make it safe to the neighbors and take care of their sewage and then proceed . Until they prove that they(the developers) are not meeting the requirements, I would guess that they can not be denied.
I think way too many times , people are scared of change and see it as bad when building can be done responsibly. That being said, now , at the beginning stage is when a developer should be made aware of his responsibilities. A big project should be given more time to have area people think about what affects the change will make . Then local governments can make sure the project is done without placing undo hardships on local residents.

[talonsfromheaven]

Did you even READ the article? (I'll put the relevant piece below):

"An applicant cannot be required to provide specific engineering design details of its proposed development at the conditional use stage," Leavitt writes. "Further, whether a specific system … will be approved is a decision for DEP, not the hearing officer."

Pretty cut and dry.

The People spoke. They don't want it. I read the article and it is still a case of the judicial system screwing "We the People" Make any Laws you want. Just because it's a Law doesn't mean it's the Will of the People. The State, Commonwealth, and Central Committe in the District of Columbia should have no say in matters that are local. This is a Local Matter that has been decided by the People who it will affect most. Hang the Judge by her Scrawny neck and may a higher power have mercy on her soul if she has one.

[ManorTwpMan]

The People spoke. They don't want it. I read the article and it is still a case of the judicial system screwing "We the People" Make any Laws you want. Just because it's a Law doesn't mean it's the Will of the People. The State, Commonwealth, and Central Committe in the District of Columbia should have no say in matters that are local. This is a Local Matter that has been decided by the People who it will affect most. Hang the Judge by her Scrawny neck and may a higher power have mercy on her soul if she has one.

Just a question...How about all the people who spoke and WANTED the WalMart here in Manor Twp. Do they have any rights or say in the matter. Because a VERY LOUD and VOCAL group of people screamed and whined and cried we don't have it. And before you even say it, yes, I do live in the impact zone. The judge ruled based on law, not her own opinions, I would surely hope that is how you would want it if you ever ended up in front of her.
And as for the hanging, are you the higher power that gets to decide life and death? (IMG:http://talkback.lancasteronline.com/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

[Maffimuk]

The People spoke. They don't want it. I read the article and it is still a case of the judicial system screwing "We the People" Make any Laws you want. Just because it's a Law doesn't mean it's the Will of the People. The State, Commonwealth, and Central Committe in the District of Columbia should have no say in matters that are local. This is a Local Matter that has been decided by the People who it will affect most. Hang the Judge by her Scrawny neck and may a higher power have mercy on her soul if she has one.

A select group of people spoke against the shopping center, they are no less significant, but there are many that want the shopping center. Problem is, they were never asked and they never spoke up (their own fault). Since this is so controversial they should conduct a survey of all the local residents in that area to determine if they want the shopping center.

[gp80mac]

So the wishes of a few people trump the rights of the developer/property owners? Sounds almost like socialism to me.

You can't fight this by overstepping your bounds. Denying conditional use by criticizing the type of sewer system they might have? You would support that? I always thought people that lived in the southern end always prided themselves on doing their own thing without tons of interference from outsiders and government. But yet that is EXACTLY what they are doing here. Guess everything is different based on how close it happens to you. Interesting.

[onlyinlancaster]

If you build it, they will come

[Maffimuk]

So the wishes of a few people trump the rights of the developer/property owners? Sounds almost like socialism to me.

You can't fight this by overstepping your bounds. Denying conditional use by criticizing the type of sewer system they might have? You would support that? I always thought people that lived in the southern end always prided themselves on doing their own thing without tons of interference from outsiders and government. But yet that is EXACTLY what they are doing here. Guess everything is different based on how close it happens to you. Interesting.

Is that post directed at me or are you speaking generally?

[gp80mac]

Is that post directed at me or are you speaking generally?

sorry, speaking generally. Hey, I hate walmart with a passion. But we need to use legal methods of keeping them out, lest we have those same illegal tactics used to keep decent businesses out as well.