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post Nov 27 2009, 08:47 AM
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Top exec picked by Manheim Central school board
By CIVIA KATZ
2009-11-27 07:47:00
Intelligencer Journal
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post Nov 27 2009, 09:17 AM
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"Superintendent at a salary of $140,000"
"Assistant superintendent at $107,112.14"
"Principal of H.C. Burgard Elementary School $82,996.10"

HOW MANY OF YOU TAXPAYERS MAKE ANYWHERE NEAR THIS AMOUNT FOR JUST 9 MONTHS OF WORK!!!!!

ROB FROM THE POOR AND GIVE TO THE RICH!

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post Nov 27 2009, 09:35 AM
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That is a lot of money, no doubt about it. I just thought I would add though that an admin. position like this is not just 9 or 10 months, they are almost always year round positions.
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post Nov 27 2009, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE (TheHunter @ Nov 27 2009, 09:47 AM) *
"Superintendent at a salary of $140,000"
"Assistant superintendent at $107,112.14"
"Principal of H.C. Burgard Elementary School $82,996.10"

HOW MANY OF YOU TAXPAYERS MAKE ANYWHERE NEAR THIS AMOUNT FOR JUST 9 MONTHS OF WORK!!!!!

ROB FROM THE POOR AND GIVE TO THE RICH!



As the other poster stated, thses are full time jobs. Furthermore these are competetive wages for these positions in surrounding districts. This is our children's education we are talking about, do you not desire to attract the most capapble people? And no, I do not live in the Manheim district but do pay taxes in another district which pays its administrators similar numbers.
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post Nov 27 2009, 11:04 AM
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As reported in the Febuary 10th 2009 addition of the Itelligencer Journal the saleries of the four administrators that these individals are replacing were:

Carol Saylor - $155,436, Scott Deisley - $99,602, Jacy Hess - $82,606, James Hale - $79,287 (This is after the pay raise was given)

The new administrators saleries:

William Clark - $140,000, Elizabeth Massar - $107,112.14, Wendy Hancock - $85,259.63
Kate Dwinal - $82,996.10

Where is the Tax Alliance that was so outraged at the pay raises for the pervious administration? The Alliance web site still states that the increases were given in the "worst economic climate in two decades". Did the "economic climate" suddenly get better?

Duane Martin
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post Nov 27 2009, 01:14 PM
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I wish Mr. Clark and the rest of the new administration success in making the School District a better district than it already is. I think everyone is ready to turn the page on the past and make the future a good one for all involved, but especially for the students!

May I suggest that someone within this new administration tackle the responsibility of student record and all privacy matters to ensure that no one without a need-to-know are permanently kept out of those records. By this, I'm not talking about trusting someone's word who has already violated that trust of the public as technology expands within the district. Let's make sure that paperless doesn't equate to 'traceless' as well, shall we? We need people that won't dodge a simple question of what was done to ensure this won't happen in the future with 'it's a personnel issue' without people realizing it's my family's issue, and that of everyone else within the district as well. As much as some people want this to go away, it won't for me until I know there are measures in place to stop this. I've been cordial enough not to blurt out the who, I just want it addressed and frankly, it hasn't been.

Don't just speak accountability but participate in it.
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post Nov 27 2009, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE (Dewey M @ Nov 27 2009, 12:34 PM) *
As reported in the Febuary 10th 2009 addition of the Itelligencer Journal the saleries of the four administrators that these individals are replacing were:

Carol Saylor - $155,436, Scott Deisley - $99,602, Jacy Hess - $82,606, James Hale - $79,287 (This is after the pay raise was given)

The new administrators saleries:

William Clark - $140,000, Elizabeth Massar - $107,112.14, Wendy Hancock - $85,259.63
Kate Dwinal - $82,996.10

Where is the Tax Alliance that was so outraged at the pay raises for the pervious administration? The Alliance web site still states that the increases were given in the "worst economic climate in two decades". Did the "economic climate" suddenly get better?

Duane Martin



From a business/employer perspective, pay raises and new hires are not always the same thing in terms of salary consideration. What you might choose to give an individual as a raise may not equal the amount it takes to entice a new hire. Economic conditions aside, that is they way business is done. Now, had the pay been increased by 50% that would be an entirely different manner. Like it or not, some people and certain positions require more pay than others.
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post Nov 27 2009, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE (ltotheizzong @ Nov 27 2009, 10:35 AM) *
That is a lot of money, no doubt about it. I just thought I would add though that an admin. position like this is not just 9 or 10 months, they are almost always year round positions.


WHAT COULD THEY POSSIBLY DO IF SCHOOL IS CLOSED?!
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post Nov 27 2009, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE (TheHunter @ Nov 27 2009, 04:42 PM) *
WHAT COULD THEY POSSIBLY DO IF SCHOOL IS CLOSED?!


Hunter, someone can correct me if I am wrong, but administrators are year-long positions. I can't speak of others though.
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post Nov 27 2009, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE (Dewey M @ Nov 27 2009, 11:04 AM) *
As reported in the Febuary 10th 2009 addition of the Itelligencer Journal the saleries of the four administrators that these individals are replacing were:

Carol Saylor - $155,436, Scott Deisley - $99,602, Jacy Hess - $82,606, James Hale - $79,287 (This is after the pay raise was given)

The new administrators saleries:

William Clark - $140,000, Elizabeth Massar - $107,112.14, Wendy Hancock - $85,259.63
Kate Dwinal - $82,996.10

Where is the Tax Alliance that was so outraged at the pay raises for the pervious administration? The Alliance web site still states that the increases were given in the "worst economic climate in two decades". Did the "economic climate" suddenly get better?

Duane Martin


This coming from a supervisor of one of the cheapest townships in the county. No police force, hardly any contributions to the library and other non-profits, milking off of penryn's fire company and not giving proper contributions. Not willing to pay your fair share for shared services. Forgive me if I don't take your comments seriously.

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post Nov 27 2009, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE (MCMan @ Nov 27 2009, 05:31 PM) *
This coming from a supervisor of one of the cheapest townships in the county. No police force, hardly any contributions to the library and other non-profits, milking off of penryn's fire company and not giving proper contributions. Not willing to pay your fair share for shared services. Forgive me if I don't take your comments seriously.



Checkmate.
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post Nov 27 2009, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE (TheHunter @ Nov 27 2009, 04:12 PM) *
WHAT COULD THEY POSSIBLY DO IF SCHOOL IS CLOSED?!



Are you kidding me? Do you think they just turn the lights off the last day of school and lock the doors? Do you believe that an entire district, responsible for thousands of students and hundreds of staff, just ceases to function during the summer? I do not work in education nor do I know anyone in these positions in Manheim, but these are multi-million dollar operations that are like any other business. The actual school year for students and the work done in the individual classrooms is only a part of what goes on. The notion of an entire district only needing 9 months of the year to function successfully is ridiculous.
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post Nov 27 2009, 10:27 PM
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A lot of work is done over the summer that admins. cannot get done in the school year, because they get pulled away to deal with discipline, meetings, curriculum, observing teachers, etc. Many student records have to be updated, budgets gone over, and reviewing the past year, preparing for the new, dealing with scheduling,... there's an awful lot of work that has to be done to prepare for the next year. This doesn't even include the massive cleaning, fixing and moving classrooms the custodians do or the filing, the reviewing of information, the updating of skills, and the classes that teachers do (and many teachers I know are in their classrooms more than several times over the summer.) 12 months of work is often squeezed into 9 months when the kids are there, and summer allows educators and school staff to take a breather and catch up on things!
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post Nov 27 2009, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE (TheHunter @ Nov 27 2009, 02:42 PM) *
WHAT COULD THEY POSSIBLY DO IF SCHOOL IS CLOSED?!


Yeah! It's not like they have to plan for the upcoming year or anything! (IMG:http://talkback.lancasteronline.com/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:http://talkback.lancasteronline.com/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 28 2009, 01:26 AM
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They work very hard over the summer making sure the custodial staff gets all that gum scraped off the bottom of each desk!!

Other than that they just twiddle their thumbs!!

I'd better add the sarcasm smileys!! (IMG:http://talkback.lancasteronline.com/style_emoticons/default/sarcasm.gif)
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