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Pitts-Stupak Amendment robs women of their rights
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 09:44 AM
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| Pitts-Stupak Amendment robs women of their rights By 2009-11-20 08:44:00 Intelligencer Journal Lancaster New Era TO THE EDITORS: After months of fighting for health care reform, I should have been excited that a historic bill passed through the U.S. House of Representatives on Nov. 7. The bill that was passed, however, contained an eleventh hour amendment which violates a fundamental premise of reform - that no one should be worse off after health care reform than they were before it. In other words, if you are happy with your current health coverage you can keep it. |
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 10:10 AM
by insisting abortion be covered -- aren't you pushing your agenda?
also, they aren't taking away your right or freedom to choose to have an abortion. just your right to have someone else pay for it. see, under your current plan, you put in the money to your own personal account (i'm over simplifying) and then if you choose to have an abortion, your money comes out of your account to pay for it. under a future plan, everyone puts money into one big pot and if you choose to have an abortion, everyone's money pays for it. sure, you put in. but so did people who don't agree with abortion.
that's the problem with this bill. everyone's money will have to go to procedures they may not agree with. which takes away our freedom to decide what we want to pay for.
also, they aren't taking away your right or freedom to choose to have an abortion. just your right to have someone else pay for it. see, under your current plan, you put in the money to your own personal account (i'm over simplifying) and then if you choose to have an abortion, your money comes out of your account to pay for it. under a future plan, everyone puts money into one big pot and if you choose to have an abortion, everyone's money pays for it. sure, you put in. but so did people who don't agree with abortion.
that's the problem with this bill. everyone's money will have to go to procedures they may not agree with. which takes away our freedom to decide what we want to pay for.
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 10:13 AM
Fighting for womens medical rights is the right thing to do, but not in an election against Pitts. Pitts is weak on many issues. He is weak on the economy, weak on cleaning up Lancasters watershed to the bay, weak on both wars, weak on healthcare and veterans health issues. There are alot of issues one can run a campaign against Pitts on. But if Lois Herr lets Pitts define the language for the upcoming election as protecting the unborn, her ship will crash on the rocks. Pitts is strong when it comes to abortion and he will rally his base around this one issue if you let him. So let NOW fight him on the Stupak-Pitts amendment and dont let this next election become just one issue, you will be fighting Pitts his way if you do.
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 10:36 AM
Uh, abortion is elective surgery. I don't want to pay for someone's elective surgery. What's next? Boob jobs and butt lifts?
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 11:23 AM
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Uh, abortion is elective surgery. I don't want to pay for someone's elective surgery. What's next? Boob jobs and butt lifts?
Hey, if someone gets to have their elective abortion paid for, I am going to fight for my rights to that mini-facelift!
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 12:13 PM
Notice that the Coat Hanger Dems didn't do anything to strip out coverage for their stiffy pills.
The government has done that, case in point Bush Iraqi murder spree. But you only have objections when it comes to a procedure that violates your religious superstitions?
Note to Dem wimmin':
If you want Dem menfolk to keep using you as a door mat by all means vote for them.
Obunko just threw you under the bus so he could say he got a health care reform bill through congress and like a battered spouse you keep going back.
Oh and BTW:
Under the Obunko "reform" plan you can keep your private insurance and if you can't afford it the government will give you a voucher to help pay for it. The catch is under the Stupid amendment if an insurance company accepts those vouchers they can't cover abortions. They might not even be able to cover the cost of a "morning after" pill although thanks to the men in congress they can still cover the cost of that little blue pill that enables the DOM to get you pregnant.
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that's the problem with this bill. everyone's money will have to go to procedures they may not agree with. which takes away our freedom to decide what we want to pay for.
The government has done that, case in point Bush Iraqi murder spree. But you only have objections when it comes to a procedure that violates your religious superstitions?
Note to Dem wimmin':
If you want Dem menfolk to keep using you as a door mat by all means vote for them.
Obunko just threw you under the bus so he could say he got a health care reform bill through congress and like a battered spouse you keep going back.
Oh and BTW:
Under the Obunko "reform" plan you can keep your private insurance and if you can't afford it the government will give you a voucher to help pay for it. The catch is under the Stupid amendment if an insurance company accepts those vouchers they can't cover abortions. They might not even be able to cover the cost of a "morning after" pill although thanks to the men in congress they can still cover the cost of that little blue pill that enables the DOM to get you pregnant.
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 12:20 PM
QUOTE (Rocketman @ Nov 20 2009, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fighting for womens medical rights is the right thing to do, but not in an election against Pitts. Pitts is weak on many issues. He is weak on the economy, weak on cleaning up Lancasters watershed to the bay, weak on both wars, weak on healthcare and veterans health issues. There are alot of issues one can run a campaign against Pitts on. But if Lois Herr lets Pitts define the language for the upcoming election as protecting the unborn, her ship will crash on the rocks. Pitts is strong when it comes to abortion and he will rally his base around this one issue if you let him. So let NOW fight him on the Stupak-Pitts amendment and dont let this next election become just one issue, you will be fighting Pitts his way if you do.
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 12:30 PM
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 01:09 PM
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Hey GR
we are now on HR 3962 instead of 3200
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 01:14 PM
What do the Americans have in common with the Nazis ? They love to murder innocent human beings. They may define those they murder as not being human beings and therefore do not full protection as human beings but murder is murder. Abortion is murder just as those killed in the Holocaust were murdered. Many Germans did not know the full extent of the murder going on under the Nazis but the Americans are fully aware of the murder going on in the name of “free choice.” The score: Nazis 6 million, Americans 45 million since 1973. Now who is more evil? Maybe Obama should issue an apology to Nazis who got the death penalty for the Holocaust. He along with those “pro-choice “ Americans are doing the same thing they did.
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