[clanker]

A tide of anger and dismay is rippling down K Street as the Obama administration implements a new policy limiting the roles of lobbyists on federal advisory committees.

http://www.cqpolitic...ws-000003216413

You probably won't find this on Fox.

[Chance]

Clanker best thing that could happen. Time for elected officials to listen to the people that vote them in and not the special interest groups.

[Fred G.]

This is just more smoke and mirrors, feel good, make it look like I'm doing something that in reality will not change a think. All the real crony deals are done in back rooms or in a skybox at a sporting event. If lobbyist can't sit on advisory committees they will just go under ground(deeper then they are now) which would make Obama and his pals happy, special interest no not me I got rid of them, right and I have a bridge or two for sale cheap. I think its funny that some people who pay for a membership to AARP,AAA and others don't think that they are hiring special interest that are lobbying for them, just like the NRA lobbys for there paying membership.

[clanker]

This is just more smoke and mirrors, feel good, make it look like I'm doing something that in reality will not change a think. All the real crony deals are done in back rooms or in a skybox at a sporting event. If lobbyist can't sit on advisory committees they will just go under ground(deeper then they are now) which would make Obama and his pals happy, special interest no not me I got rid of them, right and I have a bridge or two for sale cheap. I think its funny that some people who pay for a membership to AARP,AAA and others don't think that they are hiring special interest that are lobbying for them, just like the NRA lobbys for there paying membership.

The information on this wasn't easy to dig up. It's not something that was put out, smoke and mirrors style, for public consumption. It's simply behind the scenes change thats going on in Washington.

[wrsny337]

This is just more smoke and mirrors, feel good, make it look like I'm doing something that in reality will not change a think. All the real crony deals are done in back rooms or in a skybox at a sporting event. If lobbyist can't sit on advisory committees they will just go under ground(deeper then they are now) which would make Obama and his pals happy, special interest no not me I got rid of them, right and I have a bridge or two for sale cheap. I think its funny that some people who pay for a membership to AARP,AAA and others don't think that they are hiring special interest that are lobbying for them, just like the NRA lobbys for there paying membership.

I think it's funny that some people who talk critically about lobbying . . . also talk critically about a prez who opposes lobbying. What's up with that?

This post has been edited by wrsny337: 06 October 2009 - 08:44 PM

[mnepats52]

I think it's funny that some people who talk critically about lobbying . . . also talk critically about a prez who opposes lobbying. What's up with that?

my guess...

bad tea....

[Bustina di tè]

We've had such sterling examples of Obunko not doing business as usual in side the Beltway as promised.

• The "mistake" that let Wall Street CEO's collect obscene bonuses.
• The pending health care "reform" that will force under penalty of law to buy health insurance.
• Auto company bailouts.
• Cash for Clunkers.

[clanker]

You forgot to mention that it was Clinton's fault.

[Fred G.]

I think it's funny that some people who talk critically about lobbying . . . also talk critically about a prez who opposes lobbying. What's up with that?

I guess I was misuderstood here, I was trying to point out that alot of people who want special interest out of Washington are the same people who pay for the lobbying for there special interest by paying for memberships to org. like AARP, AAA and so many others. It's good when becouse of AAA lobbying you don't get a gas tax increase, but if the trucking industy lobbys (ATA) got a tax break for there interest that would be bad. We all have interest that are special to alot of different groups, so I was not being critically about lobbying, the opposity I was trying to point out that is how alot of people and groups are represented in Washington. But as to the other part, yes that was gotten right, I was being very critically of the prez. for even trying to pass this crap off on us, how dumb does this guy think we are that we are buying this? Here is a communty org. or what ever that comes from the most corrupt poltical machine in the country, a move up the ladder like we saw here has to have a lot of people to be paided back. Too many of the connections that should have counted during the campaine, but were countered by the it does not matter defence are going to come back to light as pay off. Just look at the whole olimpic deal and tell that was not pay backs for financal backers.

[Chance]

Fred, we have so many groups that make money by lobbying our officials and convincing others that the only way to keep what they care about alive is by sending them money. You missed the NRA. They keep telling people the only way they can protect their guns is by sending them money so they can fight for their rights. The groups involved with lobbying have one thing in mind and that is donations. They are very good at what they do.

City, posting at the same time.

This post has been edited by Chance: 07 October 2009 - 06:42 PM

[citydweller]

I guess I was misuderstood here,

Still are.

[reese]

This is just more smoke and mirrors, feel good, make it look like I'm doing something that in reality will not change a think. All the real crony deals are done in back rooms or in a skybox at a sporting event. If lobbyist can't sit on advisory committees they will just go under ground(deeper then they are now) which would make Obama and his pals happy, special interest no not me I got rid of them, right and I have a bridge or two for sale cheap. I think its funny that some people who pay for a membership to AARP,AAA and others don't think that they are hiring special interest that are lobbying for them, just like the NRA lobbys for there paying membership.

You must be a special kind of stupid if you think AARP members don't know their memberships are paying for lobbyists. What cave have you been living in? Do you have a super-secret handshake you're going to reveal to us next? A special decoder ring we can get somewhere?

Every group has a lobbyist/lobbyists. The secret's been out for a long time.

ETA: I belong to several nursing organizations. Every single one of them has lobbyists to speak on behalf of specific issues related to causes affecting nursing and the specialty I work in. Big deal? It is to me.

This post has been edited by reese: 07 October 2009 - 07:08 PM

[clanker]

I have all the lobbyists I need. They're called Prez, VP, Senators, Congressman, etc. Paid lobbyists, for the most part, aren't there to represent your interests, they're there to represent capitalist ventures and whole industries that are out to condition the playing field to their favor. Having chemical company lobbyists on an EPA board may not be in my best interest. Having gas and oil lobbyists on energy boards might not be in your best interest. There's many more examples of this, I'm sure, and it's time to take back the process from the influence of big business and have a government that more closely represents the people.

[Fred G.]

Fred, we have so many groups that make money by lobbying our officials and convincing others that the only way to keep what they care about alive is by sending them money. You missed the NRA. They keep telling people the only way they can protect their guns is by sending them money so they can fight for their rights. The groups involved with lobbying have one thing in mind and that is donations. They are very good at what they do.

City, posting at the same time.

Nope did not miss the NRA, left them out on purpose they are bad very bad, but who could say that the AARP or the AAA are bad? no one. You just made my point if a special interest group is not to your interest they are bad. We all have interest that we want protected, be it in our personal life or something that would affect the way we can made a living. People employed in the building trade for example, they have trade org. that will lobby for regulations that would faver there bottom line at the sametime some say the insurance co. is lobbying for tighter regs. that would hurt the building trade. Whos right and whos wrong? I say it all depends on your prospective and where your pay check comes from. Sorry if you still do not get it citydweller!

[reese]

I have all the lobbyists I need. They're called Prez, VP, Senators, Congressman, etc. Paid lobbyists, for the most part, aren't there to represent your interests, they're there to represent capitalist ventures and whole industries that are out to condition the playing field to their favor. Having chemical company lobbyists on an EPA board may not be in my best interest. Having gas and oil lobbyists on energy boards might not be in your best interest. There's many more examples of this, I'm sure, and it's time to take back the process from the influence of big business and have a government that more closely represents the people.

But if you're active in environmental causes, you want someone in your corner. The playing field isn't even anymore.